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OK...so I have E5 on order already. I was thinking I should upgrade my graphics card. I currently have a 256mb geForce 8600GT. I understand that 512mb will help with GPU in HD.
How much of a difference will I notice if I go with a 128bit card as opposed to a 256bit card. My problem is the main editing machine is in a small form factor case. It appears I have room in there for a full size card but it may be a tight squeeze. I was hoping to get a smaller sized card that will fit easily. When looking around it appears most of the smaller ones are 128bit.
Any suggestions?
Main System. MSI G33m Motherboard, Intel Q6600 CPU, 2GB Ram, GeForce 9500GT, 7200rpm System drive. WinXP. Lots of external eSATA drives.
Laptop. Sony Vaio. CPU- i7-Gen 3, 8gb RAM, 1tbb 5400rpm hard drive, AMD GPU
OK...so I have E5 on order already. I was thinking I should upgrade my graphics card. I currently have a 256mb geForce 8600GT. I understand that 512mb will help with GPU in HD.
How much of a difference will I notice if I go with a 128bit card as opposed to a 256bit card. My problem is the main editing machine is in a small form factor case. It appears I have room in there for a full size card but it may be a tight squeeze. I was hoping to get a smaller sized card that will fit easily. When looking around it appears most of the smaller ones are 128bit.
Any suggestions?
256MB will be ok if you are still using 1440x1080 presets. When you move into 1920x1080 presets using 1920x1080 files, 512mb is the starting point.
I do not know how the 1gb cards will improve performance.
So, if you are doing SD or HDV presets, stick with what you have. Unless, you just want to upgrade.
Jerry
Six Gill DV
If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.
Cool...I am just doing regular HDV at 1440x1080. There may be only one or 2 GPU transitions I will use anyway since most of my stuff is straight cut or dissolve.
Does the better graphics card help with the Vitascene stuff or any of the 3rd party stuff. There are a few things in there I plan to implement and if it helps there it will be worth the investment.
Main System. MSI G33m Motherboard, Intel Q6600 CPU, 2GB Ram, GeForce 9500GT, 7200rpm System drive. WinXP. Lots of external eSATA drives.
Laptop. Sony Vaio. CPU- i7-Gen 3, 8gb RAM, 1tbb 5400rpm hard drive, AMD GPU
Check out the GT260 or GT280 NVidia cards, not very dear now, NVidia had to drop the price on them to compete with ATI, as for the 9800 cards very power hungry cards, up to 225 watts, WOW!
Cheers
Steve
Main system, Supermicro X8DAH+,Dual Xeon X5680 cpu's 24 cores,2x1400watt power supplys,SC747TG-R1400B-SQ Case,192GB 1333mhz ECC Registered ram,8 x 480GB Intel 520 SSD drives,Windows 7 64 bit ultimate, GTX 670 4GB ,2 x Sony BWU300S Blu-Ray burners, 1x Sony DVD burner,LSI 9266 Raid Controller with Cache vault & fast path Lic, ESI MayaE Audio,HD Spark,Blackmagic intensity Pro,TMPGenc 5,Episode Pro 6,Sorenson 9 Pro,Alcohol 120 V2, Edius 6.53,Dell 27"LCD,HD Spark, Powershield 3000VA UPS.
Cool...I am just doing regular HDV at 1440x1080. There may be only one or 2 GPU transitions I will use anyway since most of my stuff is straight cut or dissolve.
Does the better graphics card help with the Vitascene stuff or any of the 3rd party stuff. There are a few things in there I plan to implement and if it helps there it will be worth the investment.
Vitascene is full GPU. My answer was based on Vitascene experiences.
For anything that is GPU based, video ram is the key. As I said in my previous post,
I do not know how much of a difference you will get with a 1gb card as opposed to a 512 card for the price.
Even on my lowly Sapphire 2600xt 512 card ($75), Vitascene works quite well. But, I do have a PNY 8800GTS 512 ($300) on my main machine. That replaced a Quadro FX 1500 256mb card. 1920x1080 effects worked flawlessly after the change out.
Jerry, I think this is not only amount of RAM (You mean video RAM, right?), I checked on X850, X1950Pro, X1950XTX, 8800GT cards, every next card worked better, all of them had 512 mb vRAM. I got GeForce 280 now with 1Gb of vRAM, but I will replace my motherboard to make it work...
I will describe what I got after all those adventures...:)
mike
Asus P8P67, Intel i7 2600K working at 4.50 Ghz, 16Gb Kingston RAM, Windows 7 64bit, 500Gb system drive, 320Gb Data drive and 1TB RAID-0 for AV, Edius NX Express, EVGA nVidia GTX 570 2.5CB DDR5, 750w ALTEC power and some creativity...
Jerry, I think this is not only amount of RAM (You mean video RAM, right?), I checked on X850, X1950Pro, X1950XTX, 8800GT cards, every next card worked better, all of them had 512 mb vRAM. I got GeForce 280 now with 1Gb of vRAM, but I will replace my motherboard to make it work...
I will describe what I got after all those adventures...:)
mike
So, you coughed up close to $700 for the card? I hope you can see a major improvement.
Jerry
Six Gill DV
If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.
You will see a major improvement with the GT280 or even the GT260 card, they have 1.4 billion transitors on them and support CUDA technology if your into Physx, 3D, ect, Plus they have the latest GPU'S on board. You will not be dissapointed with these cards at all. Here are some of the features of these cards.
Second Generation NVIDIA Unified Architecture:i Second-generation architecture delivers 50% more gaming performance over the first generation through 240 enhanced processing cores that provide incredible shading horsepower.
NVIDIA PhysX-Ready: ii GeForce GPU support for NVIDIA PhysX technology enables a totally new class of physical gaming interaction for a more dynamic and realistic experience with GeForce.
NVIDIA SLI and 3-way SLI Technology:® iii Industry-leading, 3-way SLI technology offers amazing performance scaling by implementing 3-way alternate frame rendering (AFR) for the world’s fastest gaming solution under Windows Vista.
Microsoft DirectX 10 Support: DirectX 10 with full Shader Model 4.0 support delivers unparalleled levels of graphics realism and film-quality effects for today’s hottest games.
NVIDIA CUDA™ Technology: iv CUDA technology unlocks the power of the GPU’s processing cores to accelerate the most demanding system tasks—such as video transcoding—delivering up to 18× the performance of traditional CPUs.
PCI Express 2.0 Support: Designed for the PCI Express 2.0 bus architecture offering the highest data transfer speeds for the most bandwidth-hungry games and 3D applications, while maintaining backwards compatibility with existing PCI Express motherboards for the broadest support.
GigaThread™ Technology: Massively multi-threaded architecture supports thousands of independent, simultaneous threads, providing extreme processing efficiency in advanced, next-generation shader programs.
NVIDIA Lumenex™ Engine: Delivers stunning image quality and floating-point accuracy at ultra-fast frame rates.
16× Anti-Aliasing Technology: Lightning fast, high-quality anti-aliasing at up to 16× sample rates obliterates jagged edges.
128-bit Floating Point High Dynamic-Range (HDR) Lighting: Twice the precision of prior generations for incredibly realistic lighting effects—now with support for anti-aliasing.
OpenGL 2.1 Optimization and Support: Provides top-notch compatibility and performance for OpenGL applications.
Dual Dual-link DVI Support: Able to drive the industry’s largest and highest resolution flat-panel displays up to 2560 x 1600 and with support for High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection (HDCP).v
NVIDIA PureVideo HD Technology:® vi The combination of high-definition video decode acceleration and post-processing that delivers unprecedented picture clarity, smooth video, accurate color, and precise image scaling for movies and video.
Discrete, Programmable Video Processor: NVIDIA PureVideo is a discrete programmable processing core in NVIDIA GPUs that provides superb picture quality and ultra-smooth movies with 100% offload of H.264 video decoding from the CPU and significantly reduced power consumption.
Dual-Stream Hardware Acceleration: Supports picture-in-picture content for the ultimate interactive Blu-ray movie experience.
Dynamic Contrast Enhancement & Color Stretch: Dynamically provides post-processing and optimization of high definition movies for spectacular picture clarity.
NVIDIA HybridPower Technology: Lets you switch from the GeForce GTX 280/260 graphics card to the motherboard GeForce GPU when running non graphically-intensive applications for a quiet, low-power, PC experience.
i. The number of processing cores varies by model. GeForce GTX 280 has 240 processing cores. GeForce GTX 260 has 192 processing cores.
ii. GeForce GTX 280/260 GPUs ship with hardware support for NVIDIA PhysX technology. NVIDIA PhysX drivers are required to experience in-game GPU PhysX acceleration. Refer to www.nvidia.com/PhysX for more information.
iii. NVIDIA SLI certified versions of GeForce PCI Express GPUs only. A GeForce GTX 280 GPU must be paired with another GeForce GTX 280 GPU (the graphics card manufacturer can be different). SLI requires sufficient system cooling and a compatible power supply. Visit www.slizone.com for more information and a listing of SLI-Certified components.
iv. Requires application support for CUDA technology.
v. Playback of HDCP protected content requires other HDCP-compatible components
vi. Feature requires supported video software. Features may vary by product.
vii. Requires an NVIDIA HybridPower-enabled motherboard.
cheers
Steve
Main system, Supermicro X8DAH+,Dual Xeon X5680 cpu's 24 cores,2x1400watt power supplys,SC747TG-R1400B-SQ Case,192GB 1333mhz ECC Registered ram,8 x 480GB Intel 520 SSD drives,Windows 7 64 bit ultimate, GTX 670 4GB ,2 x Sony BWU300S Blu-Ray burners, 1x Sony DVD burner,LSI 9266 Raid Controller with Cache vault & fast path Lic, ESI MayaE Audio,HD Spark,Blackmagic intensity Pro,TMPGenc 5,Episode Pro 6,Sorenson 9 Pro,Alcohol 120 V2, Edius 6.53,Dell 27"LCD,HD Spark, Powershield 3000VA UPS.
Steve,
Your definition and my definition for major improvement is probably different.
At 700 bucks, and a new power supply and probably a new motherboard, I would expect full RT Vitascene effects within 1920x1080 preset with 1920x1080 files for more than 1 sec.
There is no doubt that it is a very powerful card. I will be interested in reading what it actually does with GPU effects. If it won't do the description above, I would have a hard time shelling out for that puppy.
I'm trying to hold off on buying hardware until after the 1st of the year. Nehalem is coming and the Mac Pro version definitely has my interest.
Jerry
Six Gill DV
If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.
There was no 700 bucks card. I got a crazy deal-I paid $300 for the card and sold all the old ones... So I am ok. Next thing is you will NEVER get FULL REALTIME with Vitascene. Even on $10000 card.
Again, REALTIME is when you put your timeline cursor at the exactly beginning of transition/effect and, when you hit space, it will run with blue line AND BUFFER SIZE WILL INCREASE!
Approx 20% of Vitascene is not realtime.
And yes, I wii buy new motherboard, but I wanted it long time ago.
The only my concern that IN REAL WORLD you not always benefit from new hardware for a simple reason- some older software will not recognize your card/s and will not work properly... For example, this card has 512bit memory interface, which is a little unusual and new for hmmm... some software developers.
Anyway, we'll see.
Asus P8P67, Intel i7 2600K working at 4.50 Ghz, 16Gb Kingston RAM, Windows 7 64bit, 500Gb system drive, 320Gb Data drive and 1TB RAID-0 for AV, Edius NX Express, EVGA nVidia GTX 570 2.5CB DDR5, 750w ALTEC power and some creativity...
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