project settings

[koen_wagenaar]

Pal DV is lower field first

a DVD is always upper field first, regardless of Pal or NTSC

a DVD does not care about the field order of the source

so in your case, edit in lower field first and then output to DVD and Procoder automatically sets upper field first for the destination field order

Thank you Anton for your clarificaton.
Rgds, Koen

[SRsupport]

Are you sure Anton?

[Jerry]

when they made the DV codec, they made a mistake and accidentally supplied the Pal codec with the NTSC field order, by the time they discovered the mistake, it was already implemented by too many manufacturers so they decided to live with it

in any case, it does not matter what the source field order is as long as you don't change the order while editing, you can change the order only at the export stage but only to the destination file, in this case the mpeg for the DVD

Thanks for the explanation.

[antonsvideo]

Anton, Why the difference from DV and non DV? What changes in the format
to require the field change? Just curious. I have always considered PAL upper and NTSC lower. As a general rule.

when they made the DV codec, they made a mistake and accidentally supplied the Pal codec with the NTSC field order, by the time they discovered the mistake, it was already implemented by too many manufacturers so they decided to live with it

in any case, it does not matter what the source field order is as long as you don't change the order while editing, you can change the order only at the export stage but only to the destination file, in this case the mpeg for the DVD

[Jerry]

Pal DV is lower field first

a DVD is always upper field first, regardless of Pal or NTSC

a DVD does not care about the field order of the source

so in your case, edit in lower field first and then output to DVD and Procoder automatically sets upper field first for the destination field order

I stand corrected Pal DV IS lower. However, I have found these three PAL settings.

720 x 576 DV PAL lower field first
720 x 576 non-DV PAL upper field first
768 x 576 PAL upper field first

Anton, Why the difference from DV and non DV? What changes in the format
to require the field change? Just curious. I have always considered PAL upper and NTSC lower. As a general rule.


Then you have field dominance....that is another story.
Thats why working with HD is a whole lot easier as far as field order.

[antonsvideo]

Pal DV is lower field first

a DVD is always upper field first, regardless of Pal or NTSC

a DVD does not care about the field order of the source

so in your case, edit in lower field first and then output to DVD and Procoder automatically sets upper field first for the destination field order

[Jerry]

I have in my project settings a.o.: PAL and Field order: Bottom Field First.
When I export with Procoder Express to for Edius to DVD I finallaly get a Job Summary. When I go to Advanced Output Settings I notice that the item Interlacing is set to Upper/ top Field first and thats the only option I have.
Is this a known issue?
Rgds Koen

Being in PAL land your field order is upper field first. As long as you keep that setting all the way through the project you will be fine.

[GrassValley_KH]

It's a fixed setting to yield better compliancy with DVD specifications (and indeed, authoring software).

[koen_wagenaar]

I have in my project settings a.o.: PAL and Field order: Bottom Field First.
When I export with Procoder Express to for Edius to DVD I finallaly get a Job Summary. When I go to Advanced Output Settings I notice that the item Interlacing is set to Upper/ top Field first and thats the only option I have.
Is this a known issue?
Rgds Koen