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    I have in my project settings a.o.: PAL and Field order: Bottom Field First.
    When I export with Procoder Express to for Edius to DVD I finallaly get a Job Summary. When I go to Advanced Output Settings I notice that the item Interlacing is set to Upper/ top Field first and thats the only option I have.
    Is this a known issue?
    Rgds Koen

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    It's a fixed setting to yield better compliancy with DVD specifications (and indeed, authoring software).

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    • #3
      Originally posted by koen_wagenaar View Post
      I have in my project settings a.o.: PAL and Field order: Bottom Field First.
      When I export with Procoder Express to for Edius to DVD I finallaly get a Job Summary. When I go to Advanced Output Settings I notice that the item Interlacing is set to Upper/ top Field first and thats the only option I have.
      Is this a known issue?
      Rgds Koen
      Being in PAL land your field order is upper field first. As long as you keep that setting all the way through the project you will be fine.
      Jerry
      Six Gill DV
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      • #4
        Pal DV is lower field first

        a DVD is always upper field first, regardless of Pal or NTSC

        a DVD does not care about the field order of the source

        so in your case, edit in lower field first and then output to DVD and Procoder automatically sets upper field first for the destination field order
        Anton Strauss
        Antons Video Productions - Sydney

        EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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        • #5
          Originally posted by antonsvideo View Post
          Pal DV is lower field first

          a DVD is always upper field first, regardless of Pal or NTSC

          a DVD does not care about the field order of the source

          so in your case, edit in lower field first and then output to DVD and Procoder automatically sets upper field first for the destination field order
          I stand corrected Pal DV IS lower. However, I have found these three PAL settings.

          720 x 576 DV PAL lower field first
          720 x 576 non-DV PAL upper field first
          768 x 576 PAL upper field first

          Anton, Why the difference from DV and non DV? What changes in the format
          to require the field change? Just curious. I have always considered PAL upper and NTSC lower. As a general rule.


          Then you have field dominance....that is another story.
          Thats why working with HD is a whole lot easier as far as field order.
          Jerry
          Six Gill DV
          www.sgdvtutorials.com
          If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

          Vistitle YouTube Channel
          https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVlxC8Am4qFbkXJRoPAnMQ/videos

          Windows 10 Pro up to v.1803 Tweaks for Edius Users
          http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


          Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, Corsair H110, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, HD Spark, Intensity Shuttle, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Benq 27 and Hanns-G 28 monitors, CC 2019, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
          Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Jerry View Post
            Anton, Why the difference from DV and non DV? What changes in the format
            to require the field change? Just curious. I have always considered PAL upper and NTSC lower. As a general rule.
            when they made the DV codec, they made a mistake and accidentally supplied the Pal codec with the NTSC field order, by the time they discovered the mistake, it was already implemented by too many manufacturers so they decided to live with it

            in any case, it does not matter what the source field order is as long as you don't change the order while editing, you can change the order only at the export stage but only to the destination file, in this case the mpeg for the DVD
            Anton Strauss
            Antons Video Productions - Sydney

            EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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            • #7
              Originally posted by antonsvideo View Post
              when they made the DV codec, they made a mistake and accidentally supplied the Pal codec with the NTSC field order, by the time they discovered the mistake, it was already implemented by too many manufacturers so they decided to live with it

              in any case, it does not matter what the source field order is as long as you don't change the order while editing, you can change the order only at the export stage but only to the destination file, in this case the mpeg for the DVD
              Thanks for the explanation.
              Jerry
              Six Gill DV
              www.sgdvtutorials.com
              If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

              Vistitle YouTube Channel
              https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVlxC8Am4qFbkXJRoPAnMQ/videos

              Windows 10 Pro up to v.1803 Tweaks for Edius Users
              http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


              Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, Corsair H110, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, HD Spark, Intensity Shuttle, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Benq 27 and Hanns-G 28 monitors, CC 2019, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
              Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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              • #8
                Are you sure Anton?
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by antonsvideo View Post
                  Pal DV is lower field first

                  a DVD is always upper field first, regardless of Pal or NTSC

                  a DVD does not care about the field order of the source

                  so in your case, edit in lower field first and then output to DVD and Procoder automatically sets upper field first for the destination field order
                  Thank you Anton for your clarificaton.
                  Rgds, Koen

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