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    Hi. When I stack my clips on the timeline, change the speed and add various video filters, etc, I have to keep rendering in order to play through my timeline because the red line appears to tell me I have an overload area. Is this normal and what do I do about it? It really slows down the editing process to have to keep rendering everytime I want to play back my project.

  • #2
    Originally posted by mandaclaire View Post
    Hi. When I stack my clips on the timeline, change the speed and add various video filters, etc, I have to keep rendering in order to play through my timeline because the red line appears to tell me I have an overload area. Is this normal and what do I do about it? It really slows down the editing process to have to keep rendering everytime I want to play back my project.
    Post your computer specs. Include hard drive info as well. Are you trying this in HD or SD? Exactly how many layers and filters on each layer.
    The more information that you supply, the easier it will be for us to help you.
    Jerry
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    Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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    • #3
      frequent overload areas

      Sorry Jerry - still very new to all this!

      Windows XP Intel Core 2CPU [email protected] 2GB of Ram. Not sure what hard drive info you need (yes, I'm blonde)

      Working with SD. Number of layers and effects varies, but for example at moment have two layers of motions, one with chromokey and one video filter (colour wheel), the other with three filters (mono, soft focus and old movie). Also have one clip with speed increased to 3000% which immediately puts it into overload.

      Project settings are PAL 720 x 576 16bit 50/1 48000hz

      Please let me know if you need any other info, and I'll do my best! Hope you can help.
      Thanks in advance...

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      • #4
        Originally posted by mandaclaire View Post
        Sorry Jerry - still very new to all this!

        Windows XP Intel Core 2CPU [email protected] 2GB of Ram. Not sure what hard drive info you need (yes, I'm blonde)

        Working with SD. Number of layers and effects varies, but for example at moment have two layers of motions, one with chromokey and one video filter (colour wheel), the other with three filters (mono, soft focus and old movie). Also have one clip with speed increased to 3000% which immediately puts it into overload.

        Project settings are PAL 720 x 576 16bit 50/1 48000hz

        Please let me know if you need any other info, and I'll do my best! Hope you can help.
        Thanks in advance...
        Which version of Edius are you using?

        When you try to get this to play, are you just pressing the space bar? Back it up a little and then
        try shift+play or shift+spacebar and it will prefill the buffer so that it will play back for you.
        Also, make sure you have chosen the proper ram setting within Edius for RT playback. You should have anywhere from 550 to 760 buffer frames in SD.
        This depends on the setting that you have chosen.

        Are you using a dedicated video drive or are you using the C drive? You should be able to edit fairly easy with SD in Edius and that chip. However, it doesn't hurt to have a raid setup or at least a video drive.

        As far as the filters, you can use the combine filter setting and it should ease some of the pull on the system.
        Also, were the files captured through Edius as DV or imported from another system? If you captured them,
        make sure they went to your video drive and not your C drive....if you have a video drive.

        Let's start there. Hey, I got grey hair!

        Jerry
        Last edited by Jerry; 09-01-2008, 10:45 PM.
        Jerry
        Six Gill DV
        www.sgdvtutorials.com
        If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

        Vistitle YouTube Channel
        https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVlxC8Am4qFbkXJRoPAnMQ/videos

        Windows 10 Pro up to v.1803 Tweaks for Edius Users
        http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


        Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, Corsair H110, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, HD Spark, Intensity Shuttle, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Benq 27 and Hanns-G 28 monitors, CC 2019, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
        Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Jerry View Post
          When you try to get this to play, are you just pressing the space bar?
          IF so, try shift+play or shift+spacebar and it will prefill the buffer so that it will play back for you.
          Also, make sure you have chosen the proper ram setting within Edius for RT playback. You should have anywhere from 550 to 760 buffer frames in SD.
          This depends on the setting that you have chosen.

          Are you using a dedicated video drive or are you using the C drive? You should be able to edit fairly easy with SD in Edius and that chip. However, it doesn't hurt to have a raid setup or at least a video drive.

          As far as the filters, you can use the combine filter setting and it should ease some of the pull on the system.
          Also, were the files captured through Edius as DV or imported from another system?
          Thanks Jerry. I am indeed using a dedicated video drive (done something right!) and I imported the files from another system (bought them off the internet). I've combined the filters and changed the ram setting as suggested (Settings - hardware settings - system/output settings: RT buffers 512 MB. Is that right?) but it's still overloading. Shift+spacebar helps a bit during playback.

          Back to you...

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          • #6
            Mandaclaire, what you describe sounds fairly normal for your machine specs. Like Jerry says, a few tweaks here and thee could lessen the overload but like most NLE's the only way to remove realtime rendering is to up the horsepower, new hardware, raids etc.
            You need to keep a balance though - rendering is part of video editing - and if your current loaded segment is only a small part of the edit I wouldn't worry. If your timeline overloads continuously then it may be time to make some changes.
            PS: Just noticed your response since posting. The Internet files will be causing your grief. Edius is very much a one file type editor. It doesn't like foreign captured files as far as realtime is concerned.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by mandaclaire View Post
              When you try to get this to play, are you just pressing the space bar?
              IF so, try shift+play or shift+spacebar and it will prefill the buffer so that it will play back for you.
              Also, make sure you have chosen the proper ram setting within Edius for RT playback. You should have anywhere from 550 to 760 buffer frames in SD.
              This depends on the setting that you have chosen.

              Are you using a dedicated video drive or are you using the C drive? You should be able to edit fairly easy with SD in Edius and that chip. However, it doesn't hurt to have a raid setup or at least a video drive.

              As far as the filters, you can use the combine filter setting and it should ease some of the pull on the system.
              Also, were the files captured through Edius as DV or imported from another system?


              Thanks Jerry. I am indeed using a dedicated video drive (done something right!) and I imported the files from another system (bought them off the internet). I've combined the filters and changed the ram setting as suggested (Settings - hardware settings - system/output settings: RT buffers 512 MB. Is that right?) but it's still overloading. Shift+spacebar helps a bit during playback.

              Back to you...
              Ok,
              What is the format of the clips. If it is quicktime, you will take a hit on playback. You can right click on the file in the bin and convert it to HQ. Also, make sure that the files you bought from the web are converted to the actual frame rate and resolution that you will be using. After you do that, import it to the time line and drag the filters from the other files onto the appropriate clips. See if that makes it play better.
              Last edited by Jerry; 09-01-2008, 11:14 PM.
              Jerry
              Six Gill DV
              www.sgdvtutorials.com
              If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

              Vistitle YouTube Channel
              https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVlxC8Am4qFbkXJRoPAnMQ/videos

              Windows 10 Pro up to v.1803 Tweaks for Edius Users
              http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


              Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, Corsair H110, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, HD Spark, Intensity Shuttle, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Benq 27 and Hanns-G 28 monitors, CC 2019, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
              Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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              • #8
                Yup, they're quicktime clips. Didn't know you could convert them, so learnt something new! Unfortunately didn't help, so I guess I'll just need to upgrade my system, as Redgum suggests. Sigh... will have to sell my hair and body parts now to feed the monster...

                Thanks guys - you're awesome.
                x

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by mandaclaire View Post
                  Yup, they're quicktime clips. Didn't know you could convert them, so learnt something new! Unfortunately didn't help, so I guess I'll just need to upgrade my system, as Redgum suggests. Sigh... will have to sell my hair and body parts now to feed the monster...

                  Thanks guys - you're awesome.
                  x
                  What were the file sizes of the QT clips?
                  Jerry
                  Six Gill DV
                  www.sgdvtutorials.com
                  If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

                  Vistitle YouTube Channel
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                  Windows 10 Pro up to v.1803 Tweaks for Edius Users
                  http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


                  Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, Corsair H110, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, HD Spark, Intensity Shuttle, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Benq 27 and Hanns-G 28 monitors, CC 2019, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
                  Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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                  • #10
                    re Internet files.
                    Aha! Thanks Redgum. So where does someone like me get motions, etc - or is that another blonde question? Have bought some good stuff from Digital Juice - is that the way to go?

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                    • #11
                      Jerry - the QT files were 62.2MB and 13.6MB...

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by mandaclaire View Post
                        re Internet files.
                        Aha! Thanks Redgum. So where does someone like me get motions, etc - or is that another blonde question? Have bought some good stuff from Digital Juice - is that the way to go?
                        You can buy anything that you want. Just as long as it allows you to convert it to the format, resolution and frame rate that you will be using.
                        When you say internet files, that covers a large territory.
                        Jerry
                        Six Gill DV
                        www.sgdvtutorials.com
                        If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

                        Vistitle YouTube Channel
                        https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVlxC8Am4qFbkXJRoPAnMQ/videos

                        Windows 10 Pro up to v.1803 Tweaks for Edius Users
                        http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


                        Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, Corsair H110, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, HD Spark, Intensity Shuttle, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Benq 27 and Hanns-G 28 monitors, CC 2019, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
                        Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by mandaclaire View Post
                          Jerry - the QT files were 62.2MB and 13.6MB...
                          When I say sizes I mean.
                          Frame rate
                          resolution
                          pixel aspect

                          You can get that information by clicking on the bin icon of the file and it will all be there.
                          Jerry
                          Six Gill DV
                          www.sgdvtutorials.com
                          If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

                          Vistitle YouTube Channel
                          https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVlxC8Am4qFbkXJRoPAnMQ/videos

                          Windows 10 Pro up to v.1803 Tweaks for Edius Users
                          http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


                          Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, Corsair H110, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, HD Spark, Intensity Shuttle, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Benq 27 and Hanns-G 28 monitors, CC 2019, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
                          Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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                          • #14
                            Try Google on "Jumpbacks" or "motion backgrounds". I've found more available in the UK than just about anywhere in the world. Useful ones that is. Usually bought on DVD as a set and just about any subject you can name.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by redgum View Post
                              Try Google on "Jumpbacks" or "motion backgrounds". I've found more available in the UK than just about anywhere in the world. Useful ones that is. Usually bought on DVD as a set and just about any subject you can name.
                              Thats easly accesible for her!
                              Jerry
                              Six Gill DV
                              www.sgdvtutorials.com
                              If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

                              Vistitle YouTube Channel
                              https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVlxC8Am4qFbkXJRoPAnMQ/videos

                              Windows 10 Pro up to v.1803 Tweaks for Edius Users
                              http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


                              Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, Corsair H110, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, HD Spark, Intensity Shuttle, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Benq 27 and Hanns-G 28 monitors, CC 2019, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
                              Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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