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  • 64bit OS, 32bit application, 8 gb ram ?

    Lately I have been wondering if a 32 bit application can use the
    extra ram a 64 bit OS can give us.

    Has some of you with OS10 64 bit or Vista/xp 64 bit notice if 32 bit
    software like Edius or other 32 bit software is able to use the 8 gb ram or
    more these systems can handle ?.

    thanks
    Sebastian

  • #2
    Edius can't use any more memory at the moment but Vista x64 has a different memory sharing protocol which makes more memory available to different programs at the same time.
    If you multi task in any way you will find Vista x64 a real benefit.
    This could change significantly with the pending release of Edius v5 which may be 64 bit aware.

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    • #3
      The next version is 32-bit native. (software)

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      • #4
        Hi,
        There is only a few programs out there that will take full advantage of more ram like Corel X4, ect ect.

        cheers
        Steve

        P.S But you have got to go into preferences of the programs and tell them how much ram to use.
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        • #5
          Thanks for the info, I can then stay in the 32bit world without feeling
          that I am missing something.

          I am not a multitasker so 2-3 gb. seems to work for me.

          Sebastian

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          • #6
            Thats correct, unless you use a 64bit operating system such as Vista 64bit or XP Pro 64bit ect, then the operating system will take full advantage of more ram.

            Cheers
            Steve
            Main system, Supermicro X8DAH+,Dual Xeon X5680 cpu's 24 cores,2x1400watt power supplys,SC747TG-R1400B-SQ Case,192GB 1333mhz ECC Registered ram,8 x 480GB Intel 520 SSD drives,Windows 7 64 bit ultimate, GTX 670 4GB ,2 x Sony BWU300S Blu-Ray burners, 1x Sony DVD burner,LSI 9266 Raid Controller with Cache vault & fast path Lic, ESI MayaE Audio,HD Spark,Blackmagic intensity Pro,TMPGenc 5,Episode Pro 6,Sorenson 9 Pro,Alcohol 120 V2, Edius 6.53,Dell 27"LCD,HD Spark, Powershield 3000VA UPS.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by swsw1550 View Post
              Thats correct, unless you use a 64bit operating system such as Vista 64bit or XP Pro 64bit ect, then the operating system will take full advantage of more ram.

              Cheers
              Steve
              I know we have talked about 64bit alot lately. Not being familiar with Vista Ultimate 64bit, I am curious how the OS being able to utilize more ram by way of 64bit drastically increases the performance of a standard 32bit program.
              I realize that the OS will 'openup' but will Edius, in particular, be able to benefit from the 8gigs of ram that can be installed? I also realize that with the OS being able to address ram separate from the program, it will allow more ram to be used by the program.

              I guess my bottom line question is will Edius be able to utilize up to 4 gigs of ram (I believe Vista stats require 2-4gigs to work properly) out of 8 gigs supplied?

              A two pronged explanation would be appreciated. One on the 'techy' side and one in plain speak.

              An explanation from Brandon would be appreciated.

              Thanks
              Jerry
              Six Gill DV
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              • #8
                The benefit comes from an overall Windows computing perspective - more ram means less disk thrashing with a swapfile.

                More ram means, that while EDIUS' buffer setting remains capped at 512MB, the remain system ram can assist in clip loading, task switching, and also having other applications running (e.g. Photoshop).

                But yes, I'm sure Brandon has a better explanation up his sleeve (with a good analogy, too).

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by GrassValley_KH View Post
                  The benefit comes from an overall Windows computing perspective - more ram means less disk thrashing with a swapfile.

                  More ram means, that while EDIUS' buffer setting remains capped at 512MB, the remain system ram can assist in clip loading, task switching, and also having other applications running (e.g. Photoshop).

                  But yes, I'm sure Brandon has a better explanation up his sleeve (with a good analogy, too).


                  I thought that might be the case, just was not sure.

                  You could have tried an analogy. Hey, why not make Brandon proud!
                  Jerry
                  Six Gill DV
                  www.sgdvtutorials.com
                  If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

                  Vistitle YouTube Channel
                  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVlxC8Am4qFbkXJRoPAnMQ/videos

                  Windows 10 Pro up to v.1803 Tweaks for Edius Users
                  http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


                  Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, Corsair H110, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, HD Spark, Intensity Shuttle, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Benq 27 and Hanns-G 28 monitors, CC 2019, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
                  Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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                  • #10
                    Jerry, what you need to keep in mind is that Vista handles memory quite differently to say, XP. You can't compare the two.
                    Despite some adverse comments, Steve and I and many others really enjoy the benefits of Vista with editing, particularly memory and obviously so does Canopus because Vista compatibility is its primary focus this next release.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by redgum View Post
                      Jerry, what you need to keep in mind is that Vista handles memory quite differently to say, XP. You can't compare the two.
                      Despite some adverse comments, Steve and I and many others really enjoy the benefits of Vista with editing, particularly memory and obviously so does Canopus because Vista compatibility is its primary focus this next release.
                      I'm definitely considering it because of CS4 later this year or early next.
                      Jerry
                      Six Gill DV
                      www.sgdvtutorials.com
                      If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

                      Vistitle YouTube Channel
                      https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVlxC8Am4qFbkXJRoPAnMQ/videos

                      Windows 10 Pro up to v.1803 Tweaks for Edius Users
                      http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


                      Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, Corsair H110, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, HD Spark, Intensity Shuttle, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Benq 27 and Hanns-G 28 monitors, CC 2019, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
                      Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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                      • #12
                        Vista x64 SP1 is ok but nothing to get excited about. It has it's fair share of problems which I'm sure will be fixed in SP2, but that won't be for another year or two.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by STORMDAVE View Post
                          Vista x64 SP1 is ok but nothing to get excited about. It has it's fair share of problems which I'm sure will be fixed in SP2, but that won't be for another year or two.
                          And I believe it will be called something else.
                          Jerry
                          Six Gill DV
                          www.sgdvtutorials.com
                          If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

                          Vistitle YouTube Channel
                          https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVlxC8Am4qFbkXJRoPAnMQ/videos

                          Windows 10 Pro up to v.1803 Tweaks for Edius Users
                          http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


                          Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, Corsair H110, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, HD Spark, Intensity Shuttle, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Benq 27 and Hanns-G 28 monitors, CC 2019, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
                          Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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                          • #14
                            Windows 7? I think that's the next major OS that will be released in 2010.

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                            • #15
                              I heard when SP2 comes out it will have a new state of the art installer! That automaticlly uninstalls VISTA SP1 and installs Windows XP SP3! Seriously the only issue I have with VISTA is the security and the fact that it uses almost a gig of memory just sitting there.
                              Randy

                              Asus sabertooth MB Z97 16 gigs of ram SSD system and edit drives Nvidia GTX-660 video card

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