Blu Ray Question

[Nerfboy]

Is there anything new on the Blu Ray front? As in encoding out of Edius to put onto a Blu Ray disc?

I shoot in High Def and would like to give that to my clients instead of having to down convert from the editor. I know you can output from Edius in High Def lines...but correct me if I am wrong, but that won't burn onto a Blu Ray will it?

I have a Pioneer writer and player, just haven't tried to it out yet and would like to know anyone's thoughts if they have toyed with it yet.

[THoff]

Edius won't let you burn Blu-Ray disks directly, but that doesn't mean you can't use it to prepare files for other authoring programs. I use Edius Broadcast and Procoder 3 to prepare files for Roxio DVDit Pro HD.

DVDit Pro HD has quite a few quirks, but it is useable. I haven't found anything better that is also affordable.

[Nerfboy]

What do you output your video as?

[THoff]

Procoder has presets for DVDit Pro HD, using elementary MPEG2 streams. I've modified the presets to suit my needs (framerate, bitrate, and a switch to 48KHz audio as a workaround for a 96KHz audio handling bug in the latest DVDit Pro HD).

[swsw1550]

Nerfboy, just checking out your web site as I am on the Sunshine coast QLD and do weddings as well, I noticed you offer Blu Ray as I do too, how are you currently doing them if you don't know how to put out the Correct video format from Edius? I use DVDit Pro HD for the Blu Ray stuff, just import the AVI, or WMV, Canopus HQ, and away I go, easy.... output as 1920X1080 or even 1440x1080

Cheers
Steve

[Nerfboy]

Now I know Steve ;)

I just recently started the whole Blu Ray thing...so do you output your AVI from Edius as HD? and then drag it into DVD It Pro HD? I thought the output from Edius in HD was something other than an MPEG2 or AVI.

[swsw1550]

I just export as Canopus HQ, I will be honest with you though their is not a real market for Blu-Ray with the Wedding industry or really any industry at the moment, 99.99% of people want DVD Not Blu-Ray, as a lot of the players won't play BD-R and BD-RE disk's, Some manufactures say that their players will and others say they don't. You can't go wrong with DVD in my opion, Just imagine doing a wedding for a couple and burning it to Blu Ray and the people get home and it won't play on their stand alone player, Happens all the time with Blu Ray...

Cheers
Steve

[redgum]

Personally, I think Blu-Ray will be the shortest lived technology in the history of television.
Solid state technology will very soon surpass it as the distribution format of choice. It's already cheaper.

[swsw1550]

True John it is cheaper, and Blu Ray probably will be short lived, as I said a lot of players won't play BD-R and BD-RE disk's and a lot will. Who knows what the future will hold.. I have been reading abit about players having problems with some of the new movie releases as well, (i.e NOT PLAYING MOVIES) so what does that tell us.

Cheers
Steve

[redgum]

I guess that tells us to be patient, contented and not want the first lolly available.

[swsw1550]

That's it John, you got it wright, I guess I was lucky that none of my Blu-Ray stuff i.e. Burner, media ect cost me nothing.

Cheers Mate
Steve

[kwshaw1]

Personally, I think Blu-Ray will be the shortest lived technology in the history of television.
Solid state technology will very soon surpass it as the distribution format of choice. It's already cheaper.

Blu-ray may have a hard time displacing regular DVDs but is unlikely to be short-lived, and is currently much cheaper than solid state storage devices. I have customers requesting Blu-ray delivery before they buy a player because they understand it's the standard HD delivery solution, and they understand that HD quality is a good thing. We could bypass Blu-ray if everyone had a computer connected to their TV but that isn't happening, so Blu-ray will be a useful consumer format for at least the next several years.

I render my Edius HD projects to the HQ format, and pull that into Adobe Encore CS3 for authoring and burning both Blu-ray and standard discs. That works and customers want it, provided the price is right.

[Nerfboy]

And I have to say there is alot of interest in the Blu Ray market with weddings at the moment. Otherwise I wouldn't delve in it.

Thanks for your help guys. Anymore insights into coding out from Edius and authoring one of these discs please let me know. Much appreciated.

[swsw1550]

What interest in the wedding industry? Maybe the Gold Coast is different than the Sunshine Coast, But I have done many weddings down there and never get requests for Blu-Ray, Alot of people do not have blu-Ray players and HD TV's, this is one of the main reason's people choose DVD still over Blu-Ray media. I know many Videographers in QLD,NSW,and Melbourne and even Perth who do weddings and have done for many many years and they all agree that DVD is still the main stream and will be for awhile yet. Did you read my post about how alot of players out will not play back BD-RE & BD-R media, this is one of the problems that people have, and not being able to copy there disk's for friends and relatives ect, they are to limited with the media with what they can do with it, and where they can view them, even alot of computers don't come with Blu-Ray drives as standard yet. Anyway I will wish you all the best on your journey with Blu-Ray.

cheers
Steve

[redgum]

Hmmmm!! I wasn't talking about computers. In a few months you will see TV's with built in compact flash players. Record HD from the timeline to CF and plug it in your TV. No format wars - rewritable media - record directly from your TV and plug it in the TV across the road - plug it into your Iphone. Just look at the Asus EEE laptop - not a moving part. At best, Blu-ray is a simple transformation that is already a pain in the neck.