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    Work Flow revisited

    I shoot in HDV (Sony Zu1). My end product is a SD 4x3 DVD and a SD 16X9 DVD.

    Currently, I have been capturing the HDV 10801 then changing the settings to SD 16X9 and out putting that project. Then I go back and change the settings to SD 4X3 and out put the second project changing each clip one at a time to 4X3 with the layout tool. The projects are about 1.45 hrs long and just barely fit on the DVD at the bit rates I am using. So you can see I have a long wait when using 2 pass encoding in Procoder. To encode each project project it takes about 3 hours. Then I have to author each project seperately and wait for the master.

    This is a weekly project for me and usually takes one whole day to just do the encoding and burn the masters.

    I tried to export the 16X9 project to an avi file then change it with the layout
    tool. However, since the project are almost 1.5 hours long that introduces another long wait.

    I want the best SD dvd I can make and I have read where others are editing in HD then repositioning the titles in SD.

    Is there an easier way to do it?

    Thanks guys and gals you never let me down.

    Ronnie
    https://www.dirtracingvideo.com
    Ronnie Martin
    Kato Video Productions
    main system: custom built by Edit HD Ultma 277,Intel (R) core (TM) i7 2600K cpu 3.40 GHz 3.40Ghz, 16GB ram, Windows 7, Intel HD (R) graphics 3000, NVIDA Gforce GT 440, C drive Samsung SSD 850 pro, video drive WD 3TB SATA, 2 LG Bluray drives, External WD SATA 2TB storage/backup drives in thermaltake Black device. edius 8.3 WG
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    How about editning in a SD 16:9 project to begin with? You can see it on an external monitor (If you are using a Canopus Card) and all of the graphics will already be placed correctly.

    Now as far as the 4:3 DVD there is no way around that... is there a reason you are making a 4:3 and a 16:9?


    Mike

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    • #3
      Yes most of my market still has a 4x3 SD TV set. I know the prices are coming down and as soon as the new TVs get down to where people are used to paying for a nice SD TV, 4x3 will be a thing of the past.

      My main clients are Dirt racing drivers and their famlies. I shoot for several race tracks and then market my videos on the web.

      Also, with the church production in my area I can't think if a single church that has as 16X9 screen in the church. However, at my church we are just beginning to build a new building and it will include two large 16X9 screens and 16X9 HD cameras.

      I don't know if you know much about dirt racing across the Heart Land or not but it is really a well attended family motor sport event. The cars are very sophisticated and can cost well over 60k. They travel around a 3/8 mile track at speeds over 120 MPH in the straight a way. It is like being at a college basket ball game where the sweat off the players drips on you. Compared to NASCAR it is much more exciting. Most everyone at the race
      (5000-10000 people) has a family member or friend in one of the races.

      Sorry to ramble on so

      Thanks

      Ronnie
      www.dirtracingvideo.com
      Ronnie Martin
      Kato Video Productions
      main system: custom built by Edit HD Ultma 277,Intel (R) core (TM) i7 2600K cpu 3.40 GHz 3.40Ghz, 16GB ram, Windows 7, Intel HD (R) graphics 3000, NVIDA Gforce GT 440, C drive Samsung SSD 850 pro, video drive WD 3TB SATA, 2 LG Bluray drives, External WD SATA 2TB storage/backup drives in thermaltake Black device. edius 8.3 WG

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      • #4
        I would only produce the 16:9 DVD, even if many of the folks still have 4:3 TVs. The DVD player will letterbox the 16:9 image, so they will still see the whole scene -- in fact, since in this scenario you aren't cropping the video to 4:3 before producing the DVD, they'll see more than they would if you did the latter.

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        • #5
          That was my thought also... Ronnie... it was great to see you at NAB. I wish we would have had more time to talk! :)


          Mike

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          • #6
            I tried to export the 16X9 project to an avi file then change it with the layout
            tool. However, since the project are almost 1.5 hours long that introduces another long wait.
            put your project in a new sequence and use the layout-tool.
            Canopus-stuff: EZDV,Raptor,Storm,NX,all EDIUS-versions, all Procoder versions, ADVC-series, Imaginate 1+2, and so on...... ;-)

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            • #7
              I think that by following these steps, a large portion of your work will be done unattended

              1) Prepare a watch folder (using procoder 2) - set the output to SD mpeg-2 16:9
              2) Prepare a second watch folder - set the output to SD mpeg-2 4:3 and use the crop video filter to cut the sides of the source
              3) Capture in HQ and edit in HD project
              4) export the timeline inside the watch folder you created using the speed encoder for HDV
              5) Leave the room and come back in a few hours...you will find the mpeg files you need for your authoring
              Aristotelis Bafaloukos
              Systems Engineer, Video Editor, 3D Artist
              BEng (Hons), MSc, MBCS

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              • #8
                In PC3, you can associate more than one target with each preset, and even set up more than one watch folder for the same physical directory.

                I'm not sure that the same thing can be done with PC2, but both methods allow you to create both the 4:3 and 16:9 targets from a single source file.

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                • #9
                  Thoff I'm positive that this can be done with PC2 as well...

                  I haven't seen PC3 yet, that's why I'm talking for PC2 :-(
                  Aristotelis Bafaloukos
                  Systems Engineer, Video Editor, 3D Artist
                  BEng (Hons), MSc, MBCS

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