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    I don't know if this is Edius related or not, maybe it is.

    When I shoot with my Sony Z1p, I use the HDV settting at 16:9. However, when i edit in Edius and export, the footage fills up my widescreen TV like it should. But is there a way to get the footage to have the widescreen look of a movie you rent? With the black on the top and the bottom? It goes from one end to the other on my widescreen TV and I like that look better.

    I didn't know if that's a setting in Edius or if that can be done with the camera first.

    I capture the HDV footage in PAL (1440 x 1080, 50i) setting.
    Motion Art Cinematography

    Windows 10 Home 64 bit, Intel I7 4.2ghz, 32GB Ram, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1070

    Gold Coast, Australia

  • #2
    You can use the Layout tool (F7) to crop the image.

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    • #3
      Ok, but I don't want to crop the image...I would be losing some of it then wouldn't I?

      If movies are shot that way, there has to be a way to do it. The widescreen footage looks great letterboxed on a 4:3 TV, just need to find a way to do it on a widescreen TV.
      Motion Art Cinematography

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      • #4
        is there a way to get the footage to have the widescreen look of a movie you rent? With the black on the top and the bottom?
        The reason there is black borders on the top and bottom is the footage is shot at different aspect ratios than wide screen 16:9
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspect_ratio_(image)
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        • #5
          There isn't an option - you either fill the screen or crop it. How you crop it is up to yourself but you're going to lose picture. HDV doesn't shoot in 4:3 so that won't help.
          Have a look at the "Hornibrook" video on our website.
          What you have seen in the past is anamorphic film footage probably shot at a ratio of 2.0 or 2.5

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Nerfboy View Post
            Ok, but I don't want to crop the image...I would be losing some of it then wouldn't I?

            If movies are shot that way, there has to be a way to do it. The widescreen footage looks great letterboxed on a 4:3 TV, just need to find a way to do it on a widescreen TV.
            You already have an image that is as wide (1920 pixels) as can be displayed on a TV. The only way to get something with an aspect ratio that's wider than 16:9 is by cropping the top and bottom to give you the 2.35:1 or whatever that you're after.

            You can also get an anamorphic lens adapter to squeeze a wider field of view into the existing image, but do you really need a panoramic FOV?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Nerfboy View Post
              I don't know if this is Edius related or not, maybe it is.

              When I shoot with my Sony Z1p, I use the HDV settting at 16:9. However, when i edit in Edius and export, the footage fills up my widescreen TV like it should. But is there a way to get the footage to have the widescreen look of a movie you rent? With the black on the top and the bottom? It goes from one end to the other on my widescreen TV and I like that look better.

              I didn't know if that's a setting in Edius or if that can be done with the camera first.

              I capture the HDV footage in PAL (1440 x 1080, 50i) setting.
              If you are delivering onto SD DVD, just create a final output from the HD file and drop it into a 4x3 project. It automatically letterboxes your project. If you are delivering blu-ray, the only thing I can say is you will loose some of the image. You can manually insert black bars at the top and bottom to give you the 'look' that you want. You will loose part of the image. If you monitor it closely, you can adjust with the layout tool to try and match the scenes so the image you want to display, is displayed.
              Seems like a lot of work. Most people, I have found, want the image to fill the entire screen anyway.
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              • #8
                I don't know, I just like the look of letterbox across a widescreen.

                Also, when shooting in HDV Pal, am I capturing right with 1440 x1080 50i?

                Thanks.
                Motion Art Cinematography

                Windows 10 Home 64 bit, Intel I7 4.2ghz, 32GB Ram, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1070

                Gold Coast, Australia

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Nerfboy View Post
                  I don't know, I just like the look of letterbox across a widescreen.

                  Also, when shooting in HDV Pal, am I capturing right with 1440 x1080 50i?

                  Thanks.
                  1440x1080 has an aspect ratio of 1.3333. Full 1920x1080 is a square pixel.
                  Edius cannot capture a 1920x1080 signal from firewire, at least that I know of.
                  I capture by way of a different capture card to obtain the 1920x1080 file.
                  I prefer working with square pixels, mostly because I am lazy and don't want to have to play with aspect ratios in Photoshop.
                  Jerry
                  Six Gill DV
                  www.sgdvtutorials.com
                  If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

                  Vistitle YouTube Channel
                  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVlxC8Am4qFbkXJRoPAnMQ/videos

                  Windows 10 Pro up to v.1803 Tweaks for Edius Users
                  http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


                  Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, Corsair H110, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, HD Spark, Intensity Shuttle, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Benq 27 and Hanns-G 28 monitors, CC 2019, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
                  Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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