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    I am new to edius pro.
    I have a canon HV20 and I try with 50i and 25pf.
    Then capture with edius.
    Whenever I capture, with mpeg ts 1080/50i, HQ1440x1080 25p or HQ1440x1080 50I then then clip always shwows "top field first" 25 frame/s .

    Why this happen?

  • #2
    HDV is top field first, so it is correct

    Pal is 25 fps so it is correct

    50i is 25fps so it is correct (each frame has 2 fields, therefore 25x2 =50i)

    i = interlace = each frame has 2 fields
    Anton Strauss
    Antons Video Productions - Sydney

    EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro 21H2

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    • #3
      thank you!.
      my question is concerning canon HV20 25pf format. I've done some shots, some condition with 25fp at 25,50 and 120 shutter speed, and the same with stantard 50I recording.
      Then put them on a time line and make a dvd with edius pro and dvd creator. 25FP always shows worst, expecially when panning there is a lot of flicker that is missing with 50i recording. I know that 25fp recording on HV20 has been already discussed on other thread, but is not clear to me how can I get a good results with this format. Probably I should not use it if I have to make a dvd!

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      • #4
        50i has 50 unique images per second, a pan will look smooth

        25p has 25 unique images per second and a pan will look as jerky as film

        many people like this jerky film look, because if it looks like film, it must be good

        I don't like it
        Anton Strauss
        Antons Video Productions - Sydney

        EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro 21H2

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        • #5
          Is there any way to make Edius recognise the footage as progressive upon capture? It is a pain having to set the properties for every clip individually.

          Richard

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          • #6
            Originally posted by antonsvideo View Post
            50i has 50 unique images per second, a pan will look smooth

            25p has 25 unique images per second and a pan will look as jerky as film

            many people like this jerky film look, because if it looks like film, it must be good

            I don't like it
            Thank you. Clear.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by jaegersing View Post
              Is there any way to make Edius recognise the footage as progressive upon capture? It is a pain having to set the properties for every clip individually.

              Richard
              I manually set a 25fp clip as progressive, but nothing changes after render and exported. Always jerky.

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              • #8
                I read the manual of a p type camera and it says to avoid jerky pans, pan really slow or increase the frame rate to 50fps
                Anton Strauss
                Antons Video Productions - Sydney

                EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro 21H2

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                • #9
                  or use a dolly. That's why they are used often when shooting on film.
                  Steve
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                  • #10
                    Shooting 25P does take a bit more care, but I like to use it sometimes because it can add a certain mood or feel to the video.

                    What I don't want to happen is for Edius to deinterlace the progressive clips (unnecessarily), as this degrades the picture. Ideally Edius would recognise the clips as progressive during capture, or if this is not possible due to the particular data format used by the camera, the next best thing would be for Edius to allow us to change the video properties for multiple clips in one shot.

                    Richard

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