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    Hi guys,

    I'm one of those lurkers in the forum who learns a lot from every single one of you and is appreciative of the technical support, guidance, and ideas.

    Hopefully I can be of some assistance to those trying to create high quality blu-ray's quickly.

    I've been looking for that perfect workflow for "near" real-time output to elementary 1920x1080 60i m2v streams for quite some time now. I was used to Adobe's way of doing things, with a 10:1 ratio of transcoding DV25 to 720x480 m2v back in the days of Premiere 6.5, and the same ugly ratio when transcoding HD footage to either HDV or to Blu-ray M2V.

    I came across Edius and quickly fell in love with its stability, speed, versatility, and best of all, its batch processing capabilities. I use MPG generic as my speed setting when outputting to SD DVD's. Yesterday, I transcoded 8 hours of DV25 material to 720x480 m2v in only 1.5 hours on my new Dell XPS 420 system (Quad core). That made my 80 hour work week worth it...

    I have a dual quad core Mac pro running boot camp, and I was able to get real-time encoding in Procoder when using all 8 cores with the queue manager (1 2hr clip would take 4 hours, but 2 2hr clips would also take only 4 hours), but I did not like that workflow cause I needed to export my whole project as another Canopus HQ file, wasting precious resource time.

    The only thing more that I could have asked for was a compliant 1920x1080 stream from the MPG Generic setting. It "passed through" in DVDit Pro HD, but that was only good for movie-only BD-r's, for authoring menus, I wanted to use Encore, and that did not like my MPG from Edius.

    Came out the thinking cap, what can I do...? Ah! Let's try TMPGEnc!!! Opened TMPGEnc, went to MPG tools, simple de-mux, short while later, elementary streams...crossing my fingers...import m2v file into Encore...Hallelujah!!!

    It took me 55 minutes to encode a 60 minute movie, and another 10 minutes or so to de-mux it. So 65 minutes of processing time to bring a compliant 60 minute HD stream for blu-ray authoring into Encore.

    I hope this helps everybody who hasn't been able to sleep because their clients' blu-ray demands were hard to accomodate on time and on budget.

    Thanks,

    Eugene

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    Thank you Eugene,

    I'll be looking at this process shortly to see how it works in my system. Any information that can get us near real time encoding for Blu-ray is very much appreciated.
    How did the quality compare to using your other methods?

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    • #3
      TMPGEnc also converts CanopusHQ to elementary stream HD using all 8 cores here, very fast
      Anton Strauss
      Antons Video Productions - Sydney

      EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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      • #4
        Excellent tip! Can you provide more details of your encoding settings in Edius? Also, shouldn't there be some way to generate a demuxed HD stream from Edius like we can do for SD?
        Edius 6.5 on Lenovo W520 laptop: Intel Core i7-2720QM @2.2 GHz, Nvidia graphics card, 8GB RAM, Windows 7 Pro 64-bit. Canon Vixia HF-G10, three Sony HDV video cameras and one Canon 7D.

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        • #5
          The quality is better than Encore's encoder, on par with Procoder MPEG-2 presets for BD, and a little worse than DVDit's encoder. For the speed, it is far and away the best workflow imo.

          In a 1920x1080 29.97 timeline, I edit my project (I usually do multiple sequences in a single project), open up batch export, setup each sequence with the following settings:

          MPEG (Generic)
          1920x1080 resolution
          25 Mbps Average VBR
          30 Mbps Max
          Extended settings
          Quality Normal
          Field Default (Top)

          It'd be nice if it created elementary streams, but even after processing it in TMPGEnc it still saves a lot of time!

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          • #6
            HI guys
            Here is a little online video tuition I made for a friend on how to render out quick Blu-Ray spec files with Procoder Express straight from a 1440/1080 HDV timeline.

            http://www.hdvunderwater.com/blue/blue.htm

            They will go straight into DVDit Pro HD no worries.
            Enjoy
            Win 10 pro, Intel Core i7 8700K, ASRock Z370 Extreme 4, 16 GIGs Corsair Vengeance 3000 Ram, Single SATA drives, Nvidia GTX 560.
            www.flykam.com.au www.wagscapes.com.au

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            • #7
              And here is a mini Blu_Ray on a normal DVD-r disk.

              Straight out of EDIUS, MPEG 1440/1080 25mbps - AC3 and into DVDit® Pro HD and out as a ISO file.
              Then used normal DVD burning software and burnt the ISO file to a normal DVD-R disk.
              Don't know if it will play in a lounge room based Blu_Ray player though.

              http://www.hdvunderwater.com/videoclips/bluray.wmv
              Win 10 pro, Intel Core i7 8700K, ASRock Z370 Extreme 4, 16 GIGs Corsair Vengeance 3000 Ram, Single SATA drives, Nvidia GTX 560.
              www.flykam.com.au www.wagscapes.com.au

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              • #8
                TMPGEnc

                Hey Anton,

                Upon searching the web for TMPGEnc, there seems to be a number of them - "Author", "Editor", "Express", etc. Which is the program you guys are talking about for converting HQ files to BluRay (elementary stream)? And do you know the version number of the latest release? There seems to be some "old versions" listed in the search.

                Anxious to try it - sounds like a reasonable adjunct to our plight!

                Thanks, and cheers,
                Alan
                Alan J. Levi
                Director

                SYSTEM: ASUS P8Z77-VPro mobo, Intel 3770K CPU, 16 Gig Crucial 1866 RAM, Antec 1000W PS, EVGA nVidia 560Ti 1Gig Video, CoolerMaster CPU cooler, LG GGW-H20L BluRay DVD, SPARK card w/23" Samsung 1920x1080 Monitor, OCZ 240GB SSD boot in Swapable Tray & 3 WD Enterprise 1TB video RAID 5 HDD's. 4.5TB RAID 1 Outboard backups, Behringer2000 Audio Fader/Controller

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                • #9
                  TMPGEnc 4.0 XPress (ver. 4.5.2.255)
                  Anton Strauss
                  Antons Video Productions - Sydney

                  EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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