Full screen display from Edius Timeline

[Sean]

Hi
Can anybody help me? I can’t get full screen display from Edius Timeline on my TV, but when I play AVI or DVD by Power DVD, I have full screen on TV, are there special settings for Edius? How can I solve this problem?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

[antonsvideo]

in order to output to TV, you need a card like Edius NX or Edius SP or similar

which card do you have

[redgum]

Or any number of graphics cards with TV out or if HDV many of the Quadro cards will also give you HDTV out.
Alternately, you could hook up your camera via firewire and hook your TV in analogue to the camera (standard definition only). All these methods are considerably cheaper and just as effective as dedicated capture cards.
Also, they are not limited to specific motherboards.

[Jerry]

Or any number of graphics cards with TV out or if HDV many of the Quadro cards will also give you HDTV out.
Alternately, you could hook up your camera via firewire and hook your TV in analogue to the camera (standard definition only). All these methods are considerably cheaper and just as effective as dedicated capture cards.
Also, they are not limited to specific motherboards.

I will agree that they are cheaper, but as effective is subjective. Accurate color representation and the absence of line scaling eliminates this method for me. Yes, it will give you an image, but with motion you will see motion tearing in the image. This was throuigh a Quadro card.

[pjsssss]

I agree with Jerry. They can certainly be cheaper, but IMHO I would not say they are near as effective.

[Shakeel]

If u r working in SD then u can use GV’s ACEDVio, it’s cheaper, works with most NLE’s and can provide quiet good TV output but lacks frame accurate sync.

[lalx]

Hi,

I have successfully used an Nvidia 7800GTX to get monitor full screen out from the Edius timeline. I used two identical cards in non-SLI mode. I used two 20" LCDs as the main monitors (displays 1 and 3) and used a 20" LCD tv as the video monitor (display 2). Displays 1 & 3 were connected to VGA1 and display 2 was connected to VGA 2. I then sorted the displays in video settings so that they were displayed as 1,3,2 so that I could use all three in non video out modes. The video monitor was connected via component video out to give me a simulation of the video colour space.

Then in the nvidia display was configured for full screen video output and calibrated using nvidias calibration tools. The display takes HDTV resolutions so it was calibrated as HDTV 1080i display.

Once this was done, I setup the edius workspace so that the edius monitor windows were on display 1. This would give me a full screen preview on the video monitor (display 3) - in HD.

Of course this solution is not frame accurate as the display is 1650x1280 and not native 1920x1080 display, but for my requriements this was more than enough as I did not really like the NX card. So basically i am using the software version of Edius and getting a HD output without using the NX card. With most of the world going LCD and plasma - the colour space issues in my opinion are a grey area.

Ah yes and I did have to fiddle a bit with the directshow/direct 3d settings to get it to work. ie if it does not work in one setting switch to the other. and restart. once it works it works with either settings. go figure....

- Lex

[Blast1]

Of course this solution is not frame accurate as the display is 1650x1280 and not native 1920x1080 display

HDV is anamorphic(1440x1080) and more than meets the visual acurity of the human eye.

[redgum]

I will agree that they are cheaper, but as effective is subjective. Accurate color representation and the absence of line scaling eliminates this method for me. Yes, it will give you an image, but with motion you will see motion tearing in the image. This was throuigh a Quadro card.

Hi Jerry, I agree that the setup is "subjective" and often the outcome has a lot to do with the operator. Your problem could well have been the drivers you were using at the time but if you run a scope across the component output you will find little difference between say, the NX and Quadro cards. Primarily, the issue is your monitor. Unless you are using a high quality broadcast monitor (not the Dell LCD panels etc.) there will be no visual difference.
For wedding and corporate guys I would rather see them using cost effective external monitoring rather than none at all.

[Jerry]

Hi Jerry, I agree that the setup is "subjective" and often the outcome has a lot to do with the operator. Your problem could well have been the drivers you were using at the time but if you run a scope across the component output you will find little difference between say, the NX and Quadro cards. Primarily, the issue is your monitor. Unless you are using a high quality broadcast monitor (not the Dell LCD panels etc.) there will be no visual difference.
For wedding and corporate guys I would rather see them using cost effective external monitoring rather than none at all.

The drivers were the newest available for the FX 1500 at the time. I used 1 26 Samsung HDTV, 1 Samsung 32 HDTV and also a Pioneer Elite 50 to test. I would say those are decent output monitors, especially the Elite.
The ripple was present on all through the Quadro with motion, but gone through the NX.

I do agree something is better than nothing, but I would not trust the output for color correction. This was my original concept to save money. However, after 2 days I decided to order the NX.

[redgum]

That's right, Samsung and Pioneer don't make broadcast monitors so the problem would have been in the setup. I wonder why Canopus promoted Quadros for so long in turn key systems?

[shueardm]

I wonder why Canopus promoted Quadros for so long in turn key systems?

I don't know that they ever promoted them. This might be quite "subjective" in itself.
Yes, their own turnkeys have Quadro FX cards. The reasoning is not to provide monitoring support at all. They are simply the better choice for a reliable workstation -period- when reliability is more important than $ to performance value.

[Jerry]

That's right, Samsung and Pioneer don't make broadcast monitors so the problem would have been in the setup. I wonder why Canopus promoted Quadros for so long in turn key systems?

You are telling me that you get rock solid locked on video with Abolutely NO tearing with the Quadro output. Being that I am not the only one who has had this experience, you must be the only person with the special secret to setting it up.

You can believe that my setup was the problem, that is your choice, however,
the image I get from the NX, and for that matter the Rex, is stable and EASY to setup. That part is not 'subjective.'


I wonder why Canopus promoted Quadros for so long in turn key systems?

At no time has GV or Canopus promoted Quadros as an output monitoring solution. They have, however, promoted them as a good card with which to view the desktop. After all, Canopus was a hardware card maker. I do not think they would try to sink the ship to promote another hardware vendor.

I guess you feel the same about the Xena, Kona, and the BMD cards as well.

[wags]

I successfully got running a Quadro 560 card and a GT 8600 card in two PCI 16 express slots on my ASUS board here.

The Quadro 560 drives the main 22 inch LCD and overlays to a 17 inch while the GT8600 drives the second 22 inch LCD. I even have a spare port which could be sent to another LCD or HDTV if I had one.

The image looks great and it plays frame actuate....no delay when scrubbing timeline.

[redgum]

That's right Wags, there would be at least a dozen units within five clicks of my studios that are using a similar setup very successfully. The beauty is that it's cost effective and works on most motherboards.