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    I was not prepared for a talking head shot on a shoot a few weeks ago!

    Anyway I saw a flat grey background evenly lit and thought I would key out the grey in EDIUS

    Its a few mnths since I did any keying But try as I might I cant get it to work

    Trying to have talking head over various moving graphics and full frame video.

    I could use pip for some But that would mean having grey as the background, I would rather not have that!

    Can anyone refresh the process please? I will look at online training as I think its outlined there - any additional input would be appreciated!

    Thanks

    Cath
    Asus P5K64WS, Intel Core 2 Quad QX6850 Extreme CPU, Saphire HD 3850 512mb graphics, WDraptor160 OS, Highpoint Rocket raid 2310 4 x 500gig Seagate sata 2 se drives in raid 0, NXe and Edius 5.51 Imaginate 2.
    Procoder 3.06 and various Prodad add-ons

  • #2
    try the chroma keyer

    Edius3 tutorial but still currently the same in Edius4
    http://www.videoproductions.com.au/h...chromakey.html
    Anton Strauss
    Antons Video Productions - Sydney

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    • #3
      Also, to create a clean key, don't be afraid to experiment some in the chromakeyer with the different options besides just the eye dropper which is usually the least controllable option of the four.

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      • #4
        Anton & PJSSSSS

        Thanks - got it again! cant believe it the gray I shot aginst is 100% the same as ther grey I now see inbetween dots on the persons shirt...............

        Would you believe it........I know this does not just happen to me! BUT flipping Nora!

        Thanks guys again!

        I am going to crop this shot and......... well do something?
        Asus P5K64WS, Intel Core 2 Quad QX6850 Extreme CPU, Saphire HD 3850 512mb graphics, WDraptor160 OS, Highpoint Rocket raid 2310 4 x 500gig Seagate sata 2 se drives in raid 0, NXe and Edius 5.51 Imaginate 2.
        Procoder 3.06 and various Prodad add-ons

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        • #5
          Nora indeed!

          If you haven't tried the Chrominance filter, it may help.

          The Histogram and Show Key is invaluable in Chroma Key and Chrominance filter.
          Rusty Rogers | Films
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          • #6
            Use the Chroma Key, not picker mode, and use the luma limiter (the vertical bar on the side) to see if you can exclude the person's shirt.

            Alternatively, if you use Region filter, box the subject's shirt, and Chrominance the Outside of the region to skew the background color, then you can Chroma key the skewed background color and avoid the person's shirt.

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