Edius NX for HDV

[jerseymike]

I recently bought Edius Pro 4 software and the NX baseboard, isn't the MPEG-2/4 encoder module included?

Thanks.
Mike Delli Santi

[antonsvideo]

it should be and should be called Procoder Express for Edius

[Aristotelis]

There is a version of NX called NX Express and has a second pci-e board for hardware mpeg-2 mpeg-4 encoding + HD component out...

which one did you buy?

[jerseymike]

Yes I have the procoder express software but not the physical encoder board with component out.
Did I get jipped ?

[pjsssss]

There is the basic NX board and there is the expansion kit which has the componet out connections. So it depends on whether you bought the NX only or you bought the NX with expansion kit.

[Zorro]

There are various versions of the NX card:

1. NX baseboard: no HD-Out (component) card and no MPEG2/4 hardware encoder

2. NX baseboard with HD expansion kit: with HD-Out (component) card, no MPEG2/4 hardware encoder

3. NX Express

http://www.canopus.com/products/EDIUSNX/index.php?lang=EN

Only this version includes an expansion board with HD-Out AND a MPEG2/4 hardware encoder

[jerseymike]

Apparently I misunderstood. I didn't know there are different flavors of Edius NX. The GV website lists 5
DVX,NX,SP,HDLE & HD. I guess I can always add it on later. Thanks for the replys everyone.

[GrassValley_KH]

The (rough) history of EDIUS NX is as follows:

Q4 2004 - 'EDIUS NX for HDV' is launched, contains PCI-X 64-bit baseboard, PCI 32-bit daughterboard (no MPEG-2/MPEG-4 encoding) and 5.25" bay

Q1 2005 - 'EDIUS NX' name debuts, simply to provide recognition of a non-HD, upgradable product - this is just the PCI-X 64-bit baseboard. No bay or daughterboard. You can purchase an 'upgrade' of the daughterboard and bay, called 'EDIUS NX HD Expansion Kit'

Q3 2005 - 'EDIUS NX for HDV' has its name changed to 'EDIUS NX with HD Expansion Kit' to avoid 'shoe-horning' into HDV-only editing.

Q3 2005 - EDIUS NX baseboard becomes available in a choice of PCI-X or PCIe. Daughterboard remains unchanged.

Q4 2006 - 'EDIUS NX Express' is launched - contains two PCIe boards - the baseboard and a new daughterboard (which includes the MPEG-2/MPEG-4 encoder chip). The bay is removed and sold as an option. EDIUS NX Express is intended to ultimately replace all previous EDIUS NX packages (ie. you will always have HD I/O capability)

[jerseymike]

Thanks Kennealy. According to your post and the invoice it looks like I have just the Edius NX for HDV baseboard from Q4 2004, and the NX Expansion Bay which has a firewire,rca audio & video in and outs and s-video in & out.

[RandyD]

You are not missing much IMHO by not having the hardware encoder. Most encoding tasks can be accomplished in software(Procoder Express) just as fast if not faster and with more ability to control parameters. You also need another PCIe slot for that board which a lot of workstation motherboards don't have to give.

[jerseymike]

Yea, I thought the board would give me a little more speed for encoding to DVD and as for the HD output
I can wait on that since nobody has requested me to edit their HD/V footage yet. Since Edius only has a basic authoring program I'm thinking on getting Roxio DVDit Pro HD for authoring. I saw a demo of it on the web and it looks as good as dvd sp. Have you or anybody else tried DVD it ?

[Zorro]

Randy,

Most encoding tasks can be accomplished in software(Procoder Express) just as fast if not faster and with more ability to control parameters.

One hour long scene (DV, PAL) encoded to MPEG2 (CBR 8000) takes a bit less than 40min with the FireCoder with a E6600 powered system.

[RandyD]

That is pretty fast...CBR is easier than VBR since the hardware ( be it a cpu or a dedicated encoding board) doesn't really make any decisions about where to spend the bits. Try the same encode using PCE and the same fixed bit rate and I bet the results are not much different. Do not get me wrong hardware encoders have a place and not long ago saved tons of time before cpu's got so fast...but for DV editing I believe software using the cpu has caught up. Where I see a big need for a harware encoder is with HD res and Hd formats. They are out there and save time but are costly.

[Aristotelis]

The NX hardware encoder can be beaten by procoder express on an overclocked 6600 cpu. I have tested it.
However hardware encoders can be very helpfull even on DV because they do not use your cpu during the encoding process, so you can do other things at the same time.

[T-Bone]

The (rough) history of EDIUS NX is as follows:

Q4 2004 - 'EDIUS NX for HDV' is launched, contains PCI-X 64-bit baseboard, PCI 32-bit daughterboard (no MPEG-2/MPEG-4 encoding) and 5.25" bay

Q1 2005 - 'EDIUS NX' name debuts, simply to provide recognition of a non-HD, upgradable product - this is just the PCI-X 64-bit baseboard. No bay or daughterboard. You can purchase an 'upgrade' of the daughterboard and bay, called 'EDIUS NX HD Expansion Kit'

Q3 2005 - 'EDIUS NX for HDV' has its name changed to 'EDIUS NX with HD Expansion Kit' to avoid 'shoe-horning' into HDV-only editing.

Q3 2005 - EDIUS NX baseboard becomes available in a choice of PCI-X or PCIe. Daughterboard remains unchanged.

Q4 2006 - 'EDIUS NX Express' is launched - contains two PCIe boards - the baseboard and a new daughterboard (which includes the MPEG-2/MPEG-4 encoder chip). The bay is removed and sold as an option. EDIUS NX Express is intended to ultimately replace all previous EDIUS NX packages (ie. you will always have HD I/O capability)

I'm sorry to be dense, but on the website for US Promotions, I can get this:

EDIUS NX PCle w/ Expansion Bay $1,468 $ 899 (you save $569),

but I don't see any description of exactly what it is, but from what KH says, I think I may get:

1) PCIe mainboard, and
2) expansion bay that goes in the front of the computer, and
3) good-old-fashioned PCI daughterboard for HD analog component out, but no MPEG-2/MPEG-4 encoder chip,

but I have my doubts about 3), because the promotion says "bay" not "kit" - the main question is whether I get HD analog component out with this promotion