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  • poor slow motion with 4.6

    i have some footage that includes a number of tilts and pans that i need to slow down but all attempts to get smooth motion is not possible

    i have tried all options as far as deinterlace, nearest neighor etc but none give me smooth slow motion

  • #2
    Play with the Motion Blur filter... 35% may be a good place to start.
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    • #3
      poor slow motion with 4.6

      have tried the motion blur but it does not help the lack of smoothness when slowing a pan ot tilt

      i don't understand why the earlier versions had not probs with slow mo

      do i need to upgrade to 4.61 to overcome this prob or maybe downgrade would the the answer

      there must be other people with the same probs

      also what is the difference between 4.6 pro and broadcast

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      • #4
        EDIUS 4.61 (latest I think) slow mo to 20% / 40% and looks fine here.........
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        • #5
          Using 4.61 I just did a job where I slowed a pan 50% and it was very good. That said, in general it seems that slo-mo for camera movements is often more of a problem than slo-mo of moving objects captured by a fixed position camera.
          Fred D
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          • #6
            I find that a bit of experimentation with the rate setting can sometimes work. I usualy use either 50% or 30% but in some cases 70% or 15% might produce a better result - it seems to depend on the amount of movement within the clip as much as anything. The other day I managed to miss off the zero in the setting box and produced a beautifuly smooth 5% slomo. I've not noticed any difference between the slomo in v3 and v4.6

            robo

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            • #7
              Originally posted by foundy View Post
              i have tried all options as far as deinterlace, nearest neighor etc but none give me smooth slow motion
              What camera did you use?, Were you shooting progressive or interlaced? SD, HDV, or HD?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Fred Dwyer View Post
                That said, in general it seems that slo-mo for camera movements is often more of a problem than slo-mo of moving objects captured by a fixed position camera.
                I have always found this problem with Edius slow motion, regardless of version. I use AE CS3 for slow motion. It produces excellent results when you set for the highest quality setting. However, it is a dog to render. Also, it can't handle sudden light changes like a camera flash. When I do use slow motion in Edius, I use Soft Blur at about 5%. It softens the picture quite a bit, but it's a compromise I have to live with if I want to use slow motion in Edius.

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                • #9
                  poor slow motion with 4.6

                  yes guys thanks for all the suggestions but i am still struggling to produce any decent slowmo and funnily enough even though i hated the instability of prem 6.5 it did give very good slow as long as 'always deinterlace' was selected but now i love edius but can't believe that such a good piece of software is let down buy something so necessary in video editing

                  btw, i use the jvc pro hd 201e shooting in 720x50i mode

                  do you think an upgrade to 4.61 will help

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by iibw View Post
                    What camera did you use?, Were you shooting progressive or interlaced? SD, HDV, or HD?
                    jvc pro hd 201 pal interlaced @ 720x50i

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by foundy View Post
                      do you think an upgrade to 4.61 will help
                      I seriously doubt it. Slow Motion quality hasn't been changed in Edius in any recent release.

                      Martin
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                      Edius 9.50. Blackmagic Intensity Pro 4k
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                      • #12
                        help help with slow mo on pans and tilts

                        has anynody actually managed to get decent slowmo on pans and tilts

                        no matter what i try the pans and tilts are very poor

                        edius 4.6

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by foundy View Post
                          has anynody actually managed to get decent slowmo on pans and tilts

                          no matter what i try the pans and tilts are very poor

                          edius 4.6
                          Read the 5th post in this thread.
                          Fred D
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                          • #14
                            This is actually one of the reasons I unistalled 4.61 and went back to 4.54... this was just one of the many problems I was experiencing with 4.6... I even found myself seriously considering a move back to my ancient N'sync Speedrazor :-)

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by foundy View Post
                              jvc pro hd 201 pal interlaced @ 720x50i
                              Are you sure this is your setting? Not 720p (progressive) which is the native format of that JVC camera?

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