Exporting in Edius question

[Juggernaut]

Hey everyone! i've decided to go with edius on my animation projects and i have a quick question

i was testing out a frame by frame animation of JPEGs, so i went to export it and it worked great and all but when when i looked at the size of the AVI it was 100mb for just 40 seconds of video, now i know AVIs can be big, but thats just not right, what did do wrong haha ?


i went to canopus procoder express for edius wizard

then selected DV File 720x480

and the quality seems to be a bit poor as well, im on edius 4.6


thanks for any help in advance and sorry if this is a simple answer which im sure it is, thanks again =)

[GrassValley_KH]

There are many different flavours of video that use the AVI container format.

So really, it's a question of delivery - where do you want your rendered animation sequence to go?

As a rule of thumb, DV AVI will be approx 12GB per hour. (or 3.125MB a second)

[Juggernaut]

thanks for the reply, when the whole animation is done its going to be a total of 24 minutes

i was hoping to get it on DVD and also have an AVI

i was hoping to get the AVI around 700-800mb for the total running time

and what ever the best size i can get for a DVD also, and retaining the quality of the artwork etc

[Fred Dwyer]

You wish to use this annimation 2 ways, you've told us about only 1, a DVD. You can easily put 24 minutes of video on a DVD at a very high quality.
You have not indicated the intended use of the AVI file you wish to create. Do you desire to stream it over the Internet or any other net? Will it simply sit in your laptop for presentation to small groups of people? Why must it be so tiney? Answers to these questions are likely to bring a lot of top-notch suggestions from those who know how to do whatever it is you need to do.

[Juggernaut]

ah ok, sorry i didnt explain that enough !

more than likely the AVI would sit on my computer yes. but if its possible to get it smaller with great quality then why not do so :)

the most important format will be the DVD as this will be sold

im going to need it to be as small as possible, yet with great quality, as i would like to put at least 2-3 episodes on a DVD

[GrassValley_KH]

Well that does help:

DVD = MPEG-2 compression. Plenty of threads here will offer suggested quality settings.

AVI for sitting on a hard disk = If you want it to be smaller, you can always try an export to DivX or XviD, but honestly, I'd shoot for MS DV, Canopus DV or Canopus HQ - sure, it's a bigger filesize, but the quality is much better...and leaves the door open for you to revisit the footage later on.

[STORMDAVE]

First and foremost I recommend that you export to an image sequence (PNG 24bit if no alpha channel)...you can later convert that PNG (which is lossless, takes less space) into any other format. Whether MPEG2 for DVD or DV. It's best to have the original render just in case if you don't want to render the whole thing again. 24 minutes is alot in the animation world, so saving time is in your best intentions.

[Juggernaut]

thanks!! ill start looking for the threads for export settings, posting the most recommended would be greatly appreciated as well

[Juggernaut]

First and foremost I recommend that you export to an image sequence (PNG 24bit if no alpha channel)...you can later convert that PNG (which is lossless, takes less space) into any other format. Whether MPEG2 for DVD or DV. It's best to have the original render just in case if you don't want to render the whole thing again. 24 minutes is alot in the animation world, so saving time is in your best intentions.

whenever i go to export im not seeing the choice to export to an image sequence, not sure what im doing wrong

[Juggernaut]

also everytime i export i noticed theres light grey frames on the left and right side, why is it doing that?

[STORMDAVE]

I was talking about exporting your animation. What program are you using? 3dMax? Maya? Cinema4D? Did you already use JPEG for the image sequence out of your animation program?

[Juggernaut]

there frame by frame drawings done in photoshop,yes, each drawing is slightly manipulated

example: http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs25/f/20...htyOtaking.jpg

im doing my own Anime, the animations already done,voice,sound effects,music, im using Edius and importing them on the timeline, and let them play out, and it works beautifully, i just need the right export settings, because for like 6 seconds of video its like 30mb lol =/

[STORMDAVE]

Ok at what frame size are your photoshop files? .PSD works fine under EDIUS.

That still looks like a 16:9 frame. So load up a 16:9 project and export to MPEG2 from ProCoder (or Express) and then author the DVD if you need menus etc. Or use the Print to DVD feature of Edius 4.61 to go to DVD directly.

[Juggernaut]

Oh thanks dude, there 1920x1080, ill let you know what happens! =) i really appreciate you taking your time to help me out!