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    Guys I know I am repeating myself and am probably guilty of multiple posting, but I reall really need help. I need to immediately switch over to AC3 audio as I have several very disgruntled clients and I have to go back to their projects and re encode them all, and I want to do it with AC3, as I am sure that that is what is causing the problem.

    If anyone / everyone (!) can give me their encoding and authoring process which they feel results in the least compatibility issues I would be so greatful.

    I edit with Edius Pro 3, export in PC Express and burn in ULEAD DVDWS.

    Please feel free to be as detailed as you like.

    I know I am asking a lot but I have the wolves at the door!!!

    Thanks,

    Chris

  • #2
    here is what I would do to fix an existing DVD with minimum effort

    add the first VOB of the disk to Assets in DVD-Lab Pro and demux (5min)
    www.videoproductions.com.au/html/dvd-lab.html

    now you will have a video clip and an audio clip

    convert the audio clip to ac3 using Tmpeg 4 Xpress or Procoder3 (2 min)

    use DVD-Lab Pro to reauthor and recompile the DVD with the ac3 track (10 min max)

    burn the VIDEO_TS folder with Nero
    http://www.videoproductions.com.au/h...-lab-pro3.html
    Anton Strauss
    Antons Video Productions - Sydney

    EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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    • #3
      Anton, he might have hit a high datarate for his video...I generally try to keep both the audio and video at 7000kb max, but nowdays I do 7500 for both audio and video (7276 for video and 224kb for AC3 audio) and haven't had any complaints.

      If his video is hitting 8000 and audio at 1500 (48K PCM) then this is disaster to clients.

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      • #4
        yes, there maybe many factors involved, he maybe using mp2 audio which is not really compliant in NTSC

        he maybe using crap disks

        even brand name disks can be counterfeit as I discovered, use DVD Identifier to be sure

        Tayo Yuden made in Japan win the war of disks with me, they cost 80% more than others, but so does a Mercedes
        Anton Strauss
        Antons Video Productions - Sydney

        EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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        • #5
          I use TY discs too, from supermediastore.com (they have originals).
          I tried verbatim (similar priced) and they **** compared to TY, and I went back to TY (Made in Japan).

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          • #6
            Taiyo Yuden DVD+R/DVD+DL all the way with Plextor drives and bitsetting/booktype support to flag the disks as DVD-ROM disks, and PCM or AC3 audio.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by THoff View Post
              Taiyo Yuden DVD+R/DVD+DL all the way with Plextor drives and bitsetting/booktype support to flag the disks as DVD-ROM disks, and PCM or AC3 audio.
              could you translate that please
              Anton Strauss
              Antons Video Productions - Sydney

              EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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              • #8
                Which part?

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                • #9
                  booktype support to flag as DVD-Rom
                  Anton Strauss
                  Antons Video Productions - Sydney

                  EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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                  • #10
                    Burned Dual-Layers can be booktype DVD-ROM or booktype DVD+DL

                    Some older recorders don't properly recognize DVD+DL booktype so DVD-ROM is more universally-compatible.

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                    • #11
                      Booktype/bitsetting support for DVD+R and DVD+DL disks is explained here:

                      http://www.dvdplusrw.org/Article.asp?mid=0&sid=2&aid=42

                      The usefulness of this feature goes beyond what is described in the article referenced above. I have a Panasonic TV/DVD/CD/VCR/FM Radio combination in my bedroom that was designed not to accept any user-recorded disks, whether they are music CDs or video DVDs -- it states so in the manual.

                      The darn thing refuses to play DVD-Rs and DVD+Rs, but it will happily play DVD+R disks (both single-layer and dual-layer) that has been flagged as DVD-ROMs during the burning process. That's why I now exclusively use +R or +DL in combination with bitsetting, and I have never had a single disk returned as incompatible.

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                      • #12
                        Good link!

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                        • #13
                          I don't use +R disks and I don't use dual layer, that is why I was not familiar with these terms
                          Anton Strauss
                          Antons Video Productions - Sydney

                          EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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                          • #14
                            You want to set it to ROM for (+) media--if you can. The problem is that most burning applications don't give you that option, and the ones that do (or the shareware problems that will allow you to goose your burner to do it) can only do it on a limited number of burners. Pioneer burners (at least the ones I got last year and the year before that) where set automatically for this setting for dual layer (+) media. You could not however enable the setting for single layer media. I have a very old Panasonic portable dvd player that was very picky about what media it would play (I used it as my acid test for DVD-R quality). It would not play any DVD+R media (mind you, I don't have any burners that I can force the rom setting). However, (+)DL media plays great on it (again, the Pioneers are set automatically for that).

                            Jim

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                            • #15
                              That's one of the reasons why I'm partial to Plextor burners. They were one of the first companies (if not the first) to support bitsetting. Plextor lets you set the book type using their PlexTools utility, which saves it in non-volatile memory in the drive itself -- it will survive reboots and power-downs, is independent of the operating system you use, and works even if your burning program doesn't give you control over the book type.

                              These days, a burning program that doesn't give you that level of control is rare, and who knows what else it might be missing. If you use such a program, I suggest looking for something more up-to-date.

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