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    In attempting to author a DVD from within Edius Pro 4.54, I get an odd picon behavior. Knowing the issue with picons, I've changed the thumbnails to match the correct chapter points. All looks well immediately prior to burning. The picons are correct and the chapter points are correct.

    However the finished DVD, although having the correct chapter points, now show incorrect picons. In fact, when I go back in to the menu, the picons have mysteriously changed from where they were just before hitting 'burn'.

    Has anyone seen this behavior or know how to correct it? Thanks much!

  • #2
    I've struggled with the same problem until recently. This is a bug...or at least buggy...here is the work-around. After you change thumbnails, hit "Return to Timeline". When asked, hit "save". This seems to lock the changes in place. Now go back into the DVD maker and you should be fine.

    jim
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    • #3
      Thanks Jim, unfortunately that didn't work in my case. The only way I've found to make this work is to do a 'control T' to save the image as a still for the appropriate chapter point. I then go in to the image file to import that saved image at the correct chapter point. Everything else fails.

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      • #4
        The DVD Creator uses picons from halfway point between chapters

        in order to use another picon, make sure the timeline playhead is moved to a position that is clearly anywhere between the current chapters, otherwise the default picon will be used when burning

        example, if your DVD has 3 chapters at 00:00 and at 01:00 and at 02:00 with movie end at 3:00

        DVD creator will use picons from 00:30 and 01:30 and 02:30

        you can now use an alternative picon for chapter 1 but you must select from 00:00 to 00:59, if you select from outside that, the default will be used during burn

        you can now use an alternative picon for chapter 2 but you must select from 01:00 to 01:59, if you select from outside that, the default will be used during burn

        you can now use an alternative picon for chapter 3 but you must select from 02:00 to 02:59, if you select from outside that, the default will be used during burn
        Anton Strauss
        Antons Video Productions - Sydney

        EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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        • #5
          That should not be the way it works , GV should remedy it , I would real like GV to sort it out, like it should work and not a round about way.Due to the I still use PPRo2 and Encore.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by antonsvideo
            The DVD Creator uses picons from halfway point between chapters

            in order to use another picon, make sure the timeline playhead is moved to a position that is clearly anywhere between the current chapters, otherwise the default picon will be used when burning

            example, if your DVD has 3 chapters at 00:00 and at 01:00 and at 02:00 with movie end at 3:00

            DVD creator will use picons from 00:30 and 01:30 and 02:30

            you can now use an alternative picon for chapter 1 but you must select from 00:00 to 00:59, if you select from outside that, the default will be used during burn

            you can now use an alternative picon for chapter 2 but you must select from 01:00 to 01:59, if you select from outside that, the default will be used during burn

            you can now use an alternative picon for chapter 3 but you must select from 02:00 to 02:59, if you select from outside that, the default will be used during burn
            Anton, I tried that, but although once done it shows the correct picons, during the burning process all of a sudden those picons are lost and the program reverts to the default picons. If you think about it, the program asks you if you want to change the image. You then go to the appropriate point in the timeline and manually select the picon (e.g. For chapter two in your example, pick the picon at 01:00). You hit select and all looks well...until your burning process begins. Immediately after burning you don't even need to play the DVD, just go back to the menu and you can see your picons have 'magically' changed back to the program's default images.

            But by doing a 'Control T' and selecting the option of using your own image, that does seem to stick. It's really frustrating that GV hasn't fixed something that apparently looks so simple.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ken7
              Anton, I tried that, but although once done it shows the correct picons, during the burning process all of a sudden those picons are lost and the program reverts to the default picons. If you think about it, the program asks you if you want to change the image. You then go to the appropriate point in the timeline and manually select the picon (e.g. For chapter two in your example, pick the picon at 01:00). You hit select and all looks well...until your burning process begins. Immediately after burning you don't even need to play the DVD, just go back to the menu and you can see your picons have 'magically' changed back to the program's default images.

              But by doing a 'Control T' and selecting the option of using your own image, that does seem to stick. It's really frustrating that GV hasn't fixed something that apparently looks so simple.
              let me test this right now, I will add large numbers to timeline with Tmpro lasting 1 frame and I will make these the picons, I will see if the numbers appear on picons after burning
              Anton Strauss
              Antons Video Productions - Sydney

              EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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              • #8
                test complete and it worked perfect

                the correct thumbnails are shown after burn and test in PowerDVD, WinDVD and standalone DVD player, remember I made the Tmpro numbers 1 frame in duration, so the result is very accurate
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                Anton Strauss
                Antons Video Productions - Sydney

                EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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                • #9
                  That is weird, but thanks for trying! So since I'm not alone with this issue, could it be the PAL vs NTSC rationale for why some have it and others don't? As I said, I do have a work-around, but it's kind of a tedious approach.

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                  • #10
                    I was testing with Pal, maybe it is NTSC related?
                    Anton Strauss
                    Antons Video Productions - Sydney

                    EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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                    • #11
                      As I recall when initially reading about this, it seemed that all the issues were from NTSC world. It seemed all the successes with the picons were from PAL land. You guys made out on this one!

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