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  • Utility to trim video files on disk ?????

    A) Being a pretty poor cameraman and
    B) Being afraid I'll miss something vital when documentary filming

    Means that I end up using the vacuum cleaner approach to shooting !! As a result I get a lot of large files when I capture, even though I only want a 10 sec shot in the middle.

    When working with SD footage I use a wonderful utility called Scenalyzer that allows me trim to my footage after I capture which means that I save on disk space bigtime.

    Does anyone know of a utility that would let me trim my HDV video files on the disk (Mix of Canopus HQ and TS) before I bring it in to edit. This is especially important now as I am currently working on an 18 month project and I'm generating a lot of well needless footage?

    TIA,
    Rick
    Sail Fast, Live Slow

  • #2
    For TS try HDVsplit from http://strony.aster.pl/paviko/
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    • #3
      Just use in and out points when you are capturing.

      Place an In when you see where you want to start capturing and then place an out at the point where you want to stop.

      When you hit the capture button it will pre roll 5 seconds start capturing 2 seconds before the in point and stop capturing 2 seconds afterthe out point and place it in the bin.

      You can also use this method to capture directly to the timeline by using the insert ot overwrite button instead of the capture button.

      Hope this helps :)


      Mike

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      • #4
        For HDV, I can recommend MPEG-VCR V.3.14 - quickly browse your long .m2t's, choose the portion(s) to save and those to get rid of - save without re-rendering. Fast.
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        • #5
          Hi Mike & xtz,
          Both good ideas, BUT they only work at the capturing stage. I like to capture an entire tape while I'm doing something else and comeback later to tidy up. !!!

          Thanks anyway,
          Rick
          Sail Fast, Live Slow

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          • #6
            Originally posted by GrassValley_MD View Post
            Just use in and out points when you are capturing.

            Place an In when you see where you want to start capturing and then place an out at the point where you want to stop.

            When you hit the capture button it will pre roll 5 seconds start capturing 2 seconds before the in point and stop capturing 2 seconds afterthe out point and place it in the bin.


            Hope this helps :)


            Mike
            That means you have to preview all the footage and find the good stuff before capturing. That can sometimes take longer than just scrubbing through a clip once captured in a preview window. Sounds like he likes to import footage and then look for good stuff. Scenalyzer made it easy to chop up clips before bringing into the NLE so you have what you want. Was much easier than in Edius.

            How I miss Scenalyzer. I have searched high and low, near and far for an app to replace it when working with HQ files. I have found nothing. I am not a fan of the Edius bin and cataloging abilities. I was spoiled on Scenalyzer. If they would just update it to recognize HQ files I would be happy.
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            • #7
              Me too. I think there is quite a few of us. Perhaps we should petition the author ??
              Sail Fast, Live Slow

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              • #8
                Originally posted by PopEye View Post
                Me too. I think there is quite a few of us. Perhaps we should petition the author ??
                I did email him once a few years back and he said there was no support planned for HDV because of the long GOP. I can see why it would be difficult to work with HDV files. I don't think I asked about HQ files. :-(

                I would be perfectly content to just capture in Edius to HQ and then fire up scenalyzer to view the content and catalog the clips. I could live with that and be a really happy camper.

                Should we start an email campaign? It is a private individual who created it so it may be a matter or priorities and time that is the problem.

                (Edit).....I just sent a request to the author from the Scenalyzer site to see if he can make it recongnize HQ files.
                Last edited by Philip; 05-29-2008, 11:27 PM.
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                • #9
                  I do not know if this is a solutuin for you.
                  I have downloaded it but not had the time to test it.
                  I did ask bout this prog on other thred and had no comment on it.
                  Vortex MediaFiler is te prog, and it would be grate to know how it works, if some one of you have test it, allso i hope ill get the time to test it soon.

                  My best
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Philip View Post
                    I did email him once a few years back and he said there was no support planned for HDV because of the long GOP. I can see why it would be difficult to work with HDV files. I don't think I asked about HQ files. :-(

                    I would be perfectly content to just capture in Edius to HQ and then fire up scenalyzer to view the content and catalog the clips. I could live with that and be a really happy camper.

                    Should we start an email campaign? It is a private individual who created it so it may be a matter or priorities and time that is the problem.

                    (Edit).....I just sent a request to the author from the Scenalyzer site to see if he can make it recongnize HQ files.
                    Hi Philip,
                    I totally agree about the HQ thing, and guess what I emailed him too. So we'll keep out fingers crossed .......
                    Sail Fast, Live Slow

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                    • #11
                      I miss the prog that came bundled with my Storm card. It used to run through the tape in either real-time or fast wind, logging every shot and then providing a list with a thumbnail.
                      I could then preview the shots using the thumbnail as a guide directly off the tape, select the ones I wanted then tell Storm to capture just those.
                      I was supprised it wasn't included in an updated form with Edius, as it was so handy.
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                      • #12
                        I know what this guy is saying, as I do the same sometimes...my solution: place the entire captured video on the timeline, mark the area you want to use with in and out , save as AVI files, eg. AVI 1, AVI 2...etc..., then delete the original captured footage.....that is the only way I know right now, and it works 4 me.

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                        • #13
                          It a similar way but not quite as convenient as the old Storm way I mentioned, set it going and put the kettle on!
                          In the old way I could save a file to record which bits I used of a tape and if I needed to re-capture the video for any reason it was just a matter of loading the tape and appropriate file.
                          It was all so easy.....
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                          System 2 - Win XP/Edius v4.61/Asus P5 DH Deluxe/4Gb RAM/RAID0/Quad Core 2.4Ghz Q6600/nVidia 9800GT 512Mb/NXHD + other stuff

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                          • #14
                            That was because Storm captured in small segments, so you had a lot of clips to select from, while edius captures one long clip......know what you mean,..but I hated that..lol...sometimes deleted the wrong clip and had to recapture.....but since DVCapture was released, I never captured using Storm, but it was good for what you want to do......dont feel bad buddy, just do it my way....takes longer, but you will end up with just what you want.

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                            • #15
                              Bad News:--- Got a reply from Andreas

                              "Thanks for you friendly email. Still at the moment i have no time implementing a hd version of sclive.

                              Best regards,

                              Andreas Winter"


                              Well I guess we can give up hop of a HD version. Wish I still knew how to write software... there's NOTHING (that I've found) that does the same thing as SClive. Amazing really, since SO many people need it...

                              Rick,
                              Sail Fast, Live Slow

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