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  • Blurring of the Edius Preview Window

    I have been noticing this strange phenomenon and I'm wondering if there is anything I can do about it.

    I have Edius running on a 2 display monitor with each monitor at 1280x1024. The preview window is small on one of the monitors (approximately in the neighborhood of 640x480 in size... haven't really measured it). I never change the size so if I'm working on a D1 project or a 1280x720p project, the video is displayed in the window.

    The weird thing I've noticed is that the image is blurred. Lately I've been using only 1280x720 projects and footage. Naturally, I can understand partially why it's blurred because the image is being scaled to fit the window. But here's the weird part.

    You know how Edius is funky when you change the focus of the app from Edius to another app (parts of Edius disappear, etc.). Well awhile back I noticed that at the moment of this focus change, the image shown in the preview window gets about 10% to 15% sharper the instant you change focus to another app and it looks great. It stays sharp until Edius gets the focus again. For example, I can switch to Windows Explorer and it gets sharp... switch back to Edius and the image becomes blurry.

    This started me wondering why Edius can't show the image at this sharpness all the time?

    Then something happened when I opened my current project awhile ago. I started playing the timeline and the image stayed sharp (this is the only time I've seen it do this). When I stopped playback, it got blurry again and has stayed blurry. This at least showed me it was possible for it to play back sharp.

    Any idea how to make it stay sharp all the time?

    Thanks!
    Sincerely,

    Mike Truly
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    Truly Media
    970.349.5651
    www.trulymedia.com

    System1: Edius 7.41|Storm Mobile|Dual Xeon 3.1 (20 cores w HT OFF)|128GB RAM|Dual 512 SSDs|7TB RAID5|Dual Quadro5000s|Win7_64

    System2: EdiusNX+Exp|Edius 6.03|Procoder3|XP32|Dual Xeon 3.6|4GB RAM|U320 RAID0 15K

  • #2
    Check your overlay settings on your Graphics card.

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    • #3
      TonyB,

      Is there a specific setting I should be looking for? The only setting I have adjusted on my QuadroFX 3400 is for overlay-the gamma curve... no others.

      Is there a setting that blurs the image?

      I'll investigate. Thanks!
      Sincerely,

      Mike Truly
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      Truly Media
      970.349.5651
      www.trulymedia.com

      System1: Edius 7.41|Storm Mobile|Dual Xeon 3.1 (20 cores w HT OFF)|128GB RAM|Dual 512 SSDs|7TB RAID5|Dual Quadro5000s|Win7_64

      System2: EdiusNX+Exp|Edius 6.03|Procoder3|XP32|Dual Xeon 3.6|4GB RAM|U320 RAID0 15K

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      • #4
        I think he meant to try all the overlay settings that are possible in the NX settings

        try one at a time and remember that Edius needs to be restarted in order to see a change
        http://www.videoproductions.com.au/e...y-settings.gif
        Anton Strauss
        Antons Video Productions - Sydney

        EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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        • #5
          Thanks Anton. I will experiment.
          Sincerely,

          Mike Truly
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          Truly Media
          970.349.5651
          www.trulymedia.com

          System1: Edius 7.41|Storm Mobile|Dual Xeon 3.1 (20 cores w HT OFF)|128GB RAM|Dual 512 SSDs|7TB RAID5|Dual Quadro5000s|Win7_64

          System2: EdiusNX+Exp|Edius 6.03|Procoder3|XP32|Dual Xeon 3.6|4GB RAM|U320 RAID0 15K

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          • #6
            OK, something I just noticed while experimenting.

            When the focus changes to another app and the Edius preview image gets sharp, you can then do a PrintScreen and capture the whole desktop and the Edius preview image shows in the capture! (It's usually black if you try to do a capture when Edius has focus).

            This tells me the image is switching from overlay to some other mode. (I should also note that the image gets slightly darker since the overlay settings are not being used in this mode.

            Well, at least I now have a handy way of capturing the preview image if necessary.

            Thanks!
            Sincerely,

            Mike Truly
            ----------------------------------------------------------------
            Truly Media
            970.349.5651
            www.trulymedia.com

            System1: Edius 7.41|Storm Mobile|Dual Xeon 3.1 (20 cores w HT OFF)|128GB RAM|Dual 512 SSDs|7TB RAID5|Dual Quadro5000s|Win7_64

            System2: EdiusNX+Exp|Edius 6.03|Procoder3|XP32|Dual Xeon 3.6|4GB RAM|U320 RAID0 15K

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            • #7
              Well I just tried all the various overlay settings within Edius as well as the settings in the NVidia controls but nothing changed the image shown in Edius to the sharp version that appears when you change focus to another app. I'm pretty sure it is related to overlay in that when it's blurry, that's when the overlay settings are definitely being used. When it's not, the overlay settings definitely are not being used.

              Bummer. Oh well.

              Thanks!
              Sincerely,

              Mike Truly
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              Truly Media
              970.349.5651
              www.trulymedia.com

              System1: Edius 7.41|Storm Mobile|Dual Xeon 3.1 (20 cores w HT OFF)|128GB RAM|Dual 512 SSDs|7TB RAID5|Dual Quadro5000s|Win7_64

              System2: EdiusNX+Exp|Edius 6.03|Procoder3|XP32|Dual Xeon 3.6|4GB RAM|U320 RAID0 15K

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              • #8
                I personally don't take much notice of the preview monitor since I look at the external monitor (42" Plasma) and the timeline, but I noticed that the preview monitor black level changes drastically when changing focus or between player and recorder preview
                Anton Strauss
                Antons Video Productions - Sydney

                EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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                • #9
                  What's your Pause Field setting at?

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                  • #10
                    Brandon,

                    The Pause setting is on Frame. I also tried it on the fields settings and it made no visible difference.

                    Attached is an image I created to simulate what the blurring looks like. The top image is an actual capture when the image looks sharp. The bottom image I brightened and blurred to simulate what it looks like in the preview window normally.

                    Thanks!
                    Attached Files
                    Sincerely,

                    Mike Truly
                    ----------------------------------------------------------------
                    Truly Media
                    970.349.5651
                    www.trulymedia.com

                    System1: Edius 7.41|Storm Mobile|Dual Xeon 3.1 (20 cores w HT OFF)|128GB RAM|Dual 512 SSDs|7TB RAID5|Dual Quadro5000s|Win7_64

                    System2: EdiusNX+Exp|Edius 6.03|Procoder3|XP32|Dual Xeon 3.6|4GB RAM|U320 RAID0 15K

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                    • #11
                      that reminds me of the day I tried a matrox 650 card, it was as unsharp and I threw it out right away

                      btw, are your LCD monitors connected via VGA or DVI?

                      can you see what happens if you change desktop resolution to something like 1152x864
                      Anton Strauss
                      Antons Video Productions - Sydney

                      EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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                      • #12
                        Anton,

                        Thanks for the ideas. The display card is a QuadroFX 3400 (so I won't be throwing it out!) and works great in all respects. The monitor is connected DVI. A resolution change doesn't seem to change the blurriness, unfortunately. All of the area of the Edius app and desktop are sharp and crisp, only the video in the Edius preview window has the slight blur.

                        I'm sure this is related to overlay as the brightness I have set in the Nvidia overlay settings goes away when the focus is shifted and the image becomes sharp.

                        There are settings in the Nvidia controls for Anti-aliasing and Anisotropic filtering that are set to 'Application Controlled'. I thought for sure this was where the blurring was coming from so I tried setting both to OFF, but still no change in the Edius displayed image.

                        Oh well, not a big deal but it would be nice to have the preview image without this fuzziness.

                        Currently, I only have a nice SD production monitor for viewing output so it won't view HD stuff. Probably about time I get an LCD HD production monitor for my viewing.

                        Thanks!
                        Sincerely,

                        Mike Truly
                        ----------------------------------------------------------------
                        Truly Media
                        970.349.5651
                        www.trulymedia.com

                        System1: Edius 7.41|Storm Mobile|Dual Xeon 3.1 (20 cores w HT OFF)|128GB RAM|Dual 512 SSDs|7TB RAID5|Dual Quadro5000s|Win7_64

                        System2: EdiusNX+Exp|Edius 6.03|Procoder3|XP32|Dual Xeon 3.6|4GB RAM|U320 RAID0 15K

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                        • #13
                          be careful with what you buy when it comes to LCD, they mostly have the shakes when a camera pan happens

                          The new Sony Pro Luma monitors have no shakes because of the very fast response
                          http://www.sony.com.au/production/ca...tegoryId=22389

                          also, Plasma screens are great
                          Anton Strauss
                          Antons Video Productions - Sydney

                          EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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                          • #14
                            Anton,

                            Thanks for the recommendations. I will probably go LCD as I am at 9000ft altitude and plasma has historically had a problem at high altitude. The 2450 Sony LCD looks nice!

                            Thanks again.
                            Sincerely,

                            Mike Truly
                            ----------------------------------------------------------------
                            Truly Media
                            970.349.5651
                            www.trulymedia.com

                            System1: Edius 7.41|Storm Mobile|Dual Xeon 3.1 (20 cores w HT OFF)|128GB RAM|Dual 512 SSDs|7TB RAID5|Dual Quadro5000s|Win7_64

                            System2: EdiusNX+Exp|Edius 6.03|Procoder3|XP32|Dual Xeon 3.6|4GB RAM|U320 RAID0 15K

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                            • #15
                              This is a familiar picture - it has to do with the way the EDIUS software employs the video hardware overlay. I'm wondering if your PC's DirectDraw (DirectX) is up to date and fresh - 9.0c is the latest version.

                              This is somewhat moot now anyway - v4.5 sees a new system of video overlay reproduction, via Direct3D - the results are simply gorgeous! (it even emulates interlacing)

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