New Computer for AVC Intra

[muleferg]

Received a new computer for AVC Intra Edius Broadcast
Got it up and importing Avc I 100 1080 24p this PM
This thing really smokes
5 layer of AVC100 1080 24p, 3 explode transition
All played RT

(Quad-Core)Intel® Core™ 2 Extreme QX9650 @ 3.00GHz 1333FSB 12MB L2 Cache 64-bi
4 g ddr3 ram
Nvidia 8800 gts 768 mb
Asus p5e3 ddr3 mother
2 250 sata ll raid 0

Reminds me of the DV Days

Mule

[STORMDAVE]

5 layers of AVC intra? Wow.

I couldn't even do 2 layers of MPEG2 (Yes I know it's Long-GOP) steadily of Full raster 1080i59.94 correctly on my monster 8 core.

[Jerry]

5 layers of AVC intra? Wow.

I couldn't even do 2 layers of MPEG2 (Yes I know it's Long-GOP) steadily of Full raster 1080i59.94 correctly on my monster 8 core.

Dave, Is this the Intra we saw at NAB on that new camera? I can't see DDR3 adding that much push.

[STORMDAVE]

Hey Jerry,

Yeah it's the AVC-Intra codec from Panasonic with the HPX2000 and up...it's an i-frame codec but it's still very heavy on a machine, but seems that it's not as heavy as MPEG2.

Not sure RAM has much to do with this, MPEG2 long-gop is yucky.

[Jerry]

Hey Jerry,

Yeah it's the AVC-Intra codec from Panasonic with the HPX2000 and up...it's an i-frame codec but it's still very heavy on a machine, but seems that it's not as heavy as MPEG2.

Not sure RAM has much to do with this, MPEG2 long-gop is yucky.

Yeah, If that is doing that many layers with a 2 drive raid, it can't be that heavy. Your dual quad should at least equal that. It would be cool to see what it does on Anton's new rig.

Mule,
What does that machine do with 5 layers of HQ 1920x1080?

[STORMDAVE]

I thought for a second that AVC-Intra is too new and EDIUS wasn't that well optimized for it...Antons new rig is only about 6-7% faster than mine (65nm vs 45nm, a bit of larger cache and a bit faster RAM), except that he has a RAID0 and I don't have a RAID (yet, I plan to put in dual 750GB's internally and format it as NTFS). And sadly EDIUS does not really take advantage of all of the CPU's, except in PC3 with the DVD Preview target settings and SpeedEncoder (Also the built in Generic MPEG encoder).

HQ should be much easier to handle than AVC-Intra. It's an H.264 based codec.

[muleferg]

"Mule,
What does that machine do with 5 layers of HQ 1920x1080?"

After More testing
5 avc I 1920 after 44 sec buffer runs out 1/348
3 avc 1920 1 audio buffer runs out at 1m 20sec
2 AVC I 1920 1 audio plays well.

in my old system when the buffer ran out it would stop
the 5 tracks now will play now at a slower speed when the buffer reads 1/348
Just like GV has said 2 tracks. I'm happy with that

Mule

[STORMDAVE]

Ahhh you're relying on the buffer :)

When I do tests to see how many layers I can do, I make sure that the buffer stays stable and does not go down, that's when you know you can do so many layers.

2 layers of AVC-Intra sound more realistic.

[Jerry]

"Mule,
What does that machine do with 5 layers of HQ 1920x1080?"

After More testing
5 avc I 1920 after 44 sec buffer runs out 1/348
3 avc 1920 1 audio buffer runs out at 1m 20sec
2 AVC I 1920 1 audio plays well.

in my old system when the buffer ran out it would stop
the 5 tracks now will play now at a slower speed when the buffer reads 1/348
Just like GV has said 2 tracks. I'm happy with that

Mule

How are you getting 348 buffer frames with a preset of 1920x1080? That is in the 125 range normally.

[muleferg]

How are you getting 348 buffer frames with a preset of 1920x1080? That is in the 125 range normally.

Hardware settings. change the buffer. If I remember correctly the lowest setting is 127 or close
Hey I'm new to this AVC Intra. and in a learning curve.
Are you already shooting AVC I and editing in Edius?
I need all the help I can get.{:}
Mule

[STORMDAVE]

Hey Mule, you're coping with 10bit footage in a 8bit timeline? hehe

I would recommend converting to Canopus HQ (Fine mode) if you want to do more than 2 layers.

[Jerry]

Hardware settings. change the buffer. If I remember correctly the lowest setting is 127 or close
Hey I'm new to this AVC Intra. and in a learning curve.
Are you already shooting AVC I and editing in Edius?
I need all the help I can get.{:}
Mule

I have the highest setting and 4gigs of ram and 125 in the 1920 setting.
165 in 1440 setting. I think the highest setting in hardware was 512. I am very interested in how you got the 348. Could you please give me a rundown of your settings?

Not shooting with that codec. I liked the camera and the 10bit quality of the codec.

[muleferg]

Jerry: Checked my settings made sure I was in 1920. You are correct I only got 127 in the buffer. Somehow I must have switched to a lower setting.
Thanks for the feedback to you and Dave.

Mule

[Jerry]

Jerry: Checked my settings made sure I was in 1920. You are correct I only got 127 in the buffer. Somehow I must have switched to a lower setting.
Thanks for the feedback to you and Dave.

Mule

Mule,
I was really hoping that I was wrong. Those other buffer frames would be nice to have. By the way, what settings were you in?
When you went to 1920 I hope you noticed a big quality boost! You probably noticed a drop in performance as well.
Jerry

[muleferg]

Mule,
By the way, what settings were you in?
Jerry

OCHI HD60
1920x1080
Render Format Canopus HD AVI
Canopus HQ Codec Setting Online Standard I have changed to Fine.
With the new computer
I am unable to view HD yet and looking with some old monitor.

I have a Dual Core Xeon 3.4 w/2 g Ram NX Broadcast
HD Monitor The 1920 footage is mind blowing.
I will be upgrading to the Sharp 1920x1080 soon
Mule