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    Received a new computer for AVC Intra Edius Broadcast
    Got it up and importing Avc I 100 1080 24p this PM
    This thing really smokes
    5 layer of AVC100 1080 24p, 3 explode transition
    All played RT

    (Quad-Core)Intel® Core™ 2 Extreme QX9650 @ 3.00GHz 1333FSB 12MB L2 Cache 64-bi
    4 g ddr3 ram
    Nvidia 8800 gts 768 mb
    Asus p5e3 ddr3 mother
    2 250 sata ll raid 0

    Reminds me of the DV Days

    Mule
    Last edited by muleferg; 05-15-2008, 12:38 AM.
    EDIUS v5.51 Broadcast - Dual Xeon Supermicro X7DWA-N with E5450 3.0GHz CPU (8 cores)
    4 GB Ram, 1.0 TB Video Raid (2x500). 5 ea 1.0 TB External Video. 2 500 gb Ext, 320 GB OS Drive .. ATI Radeon HD 4350 with 512 Ram XP Pro with SP 3 HD Sparks, VisTitle

    Edius 6.52Dual Xeon Asus P5E3 9650 3.0 4G Ram
    Nvidia9800, 500G Raid (2x250) 1TB&500TB Ext Drives

    HPX 2000 AVC Intra, HVX 200, HPX 170, AG-AF 100, Canon D5 MKll.....MacBook G4 w/VMWare FCP Edius 6.2

  • #2
    5 layers of AVC intra? Wow.

    I couldn't even do 2 layers of MPEG2 (Yes I know it's Long-GOP) steadily of Full raster 1080i59.94 correctly on my monster 8 core.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by STORMDAVE View Post
      5 layers of AVC intra? Wow.

      I couldn't even do 2 layers of MPEG2 (Yes I know it's Long-GOP) steadily of Full raster 1080i59.94 correctly on my monster 8 core.
      Dave, Is this the Intra we saw at NAB on that new camera? I can't see DDR3 adding that much push.
      Jerry
      Six Gill DV
      www.sgdvtutorials.com
      If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

      Vistitle YouTube Channel
      https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVlxC8Am4qFbkXJRoPAnMQ/videos

      Windows 10 Pro up to v.1803 Tweaks for Edius Users
      http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


      Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, Corsair H110, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, HD Spark, Intensity Shuttle, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Benq 27 and Hanns-G 28 monitors, CC 2019, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
      Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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      • #4
        Hey Jerry,

        Yeah it's the AVC-Intra codec from Panasonic with the HPX2000 and up...it's an i-frame codec but it's still very heavy on a machine, but seems that it's not as heavy as MPEG2.

        Not sure RAM has much to do with this, MPEG2 long-gop is yucky.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by STORMDAVE View Post
          Hey Jerry,

          Yeah it's the AVC-Intra codec from Panasonic with the HPX2000 and up...it's an i-frame codec but it's still very heavy on a machine, but seems that it's not as heavy as MPEG2.

          Not sure RAM has much to do with this, MPEG2 long-gop is yucky.
          Yeah, If that is doing that many layers with a 2 drive raid, it can't be that heavy. Your dual quad should at least equal that. It would be cool to see what it does on Anton's new rig.

          Mule,
          What does that machine do with 5 layers of HQ 1920x1080?
          Jerry
          Six Gill DV
          www.sgdvtutorials.com
          If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

          Vistitle YouTube Channel
          https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVlxC8Am4qFbkXJRoPAnMQ/videos

          Windows 10 Pro up to v.1803 Tweaks for Edius Users
          http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


          Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, Corsair H110, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, HD Spark, Intensity Shuttle, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Benq 27 and Hanns-G 28 monitors, CC 2019, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
          Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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          • #6
            I thought for a second that AVC-Intra is too new and EDIUS wasn't that well optimized for it...Antons new rig is only about 6-7% faster than mine (65nm vs 45nm, a bit of larger cache and a bit faster RAM), except that he has a RAID0 and I don't have a RAID (yet, I plan to put in dual 750GB's internally and format it as NTFS). And sadly EDIUS does not really take advantage of all of the CPU's, except in PC3 with the DVD Preview target settings and SpeedEncoder (Also the built in Generic MPEG encoder).

            HQ should be much easier to handle than AVC-Intra. It's an H.264 based codec.

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            • #7
              "Mule,
              What does that machine do with 5 layers of HQ 1920x1080?"

              After More testing
              5 avc I 1920 after 44 sec buffer runs out 1/348
              3 avc 1920 1 audio buffer runs out at 1m 20sec
              2 AVC I 1920 1 audio plays well.

              in my old system when the buffer ran out it would stop
              the 5 tracks now will play now at a slower speed when the buffer reads 1/348
              Just like GV has said 2 tracks. I'm happy with that

              Mule
              EDIUS v5.51 Broadcast - Dual Xeon Supermicro X7DWA-N with E5450 3.0GHz CPU (8 cores)
              4 GB Ram, 1.0 TB Video Raid (2x500). 5 ea 1.0 TB External Video. 2 500 gb Ext, 320 GB OS Drive .. ATI Radeon HD 4350 with 512 Ram XP Pro with SP 3 HD Sparks, VisTitle

              Edius 6.52Dual Xeon Asus P5E3 9650 3.0 4G Ram
              Nvidia9800, 500G Raid (2x250) 1TB&500TB Ext Drives

              HPX 2000 AVC Intra, HVX 200, HPX 170, AG-AF 100, Canon D5 MKll.....MacBook G4 w/VMWare FCP Edius 6.2

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              • #8
                Ahhh you're relying on the buffer :)

                When I do tests to see how many layers I can do, I make sure that the buffer stays stable and does not go down, that's when you know you can do so many layers.

                2 layers of AVC-Intra sound more realistic.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by muleferg View Post
                  "Mule,
                  What does that machine do with 5 layers of HQ 1920x1080?"

                  After More testing
                  5 avc I 1920 after 44 sec buffer runs out 1/348
                  3 avc 1920 1 audio buffer runs out at 1m 20sec
                  2 AVC I 1920 1 audio plays well.

                  in my old system when the buffer ran out it would stop
                  the 5 tracks now will play now at a slower speed when the buffer reads 1/348
                  Just like GV has said 2 tracks. I'm happy with that

                  Mule
                  How are you getting 348 buffer frames with a preset of 1920x1080? That is in the 125 range normally.
                  Jerry
                  Six Gill DV
                  www.sgdvtutorials.com
                  If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

                  Vistitle YouTube Channel
                  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVlxC8Am4qFbkXJRoPAnMQ/videos

                  Windows 10 Pro up to v.1803 Tweaks for Edius Users
                  http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


                  Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, Corsair H110, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, HD Spark, Intensity Shuttle, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Benq 27 and Hanns-G 28 monitors, CC 2019, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
                  Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Jerry View Post
                    How are you getting 348 buffer frames with a preset of 1920x1080? That is in the 125 range normally.
                    Hardware settings. change the buffer. If I remember correctly the lowest setting is 127 or close
                    Hey I'm new to this AVC Intra. and in a learning curve.
                    Are you already shooting AVC I and editing in Edius?
                    I need all the help I can get.{:}
                    Mule
                    EDIUS v5.51 Broadcast - Dual Xeon Supermicro X7DWA-N with E5450 3.0GHz CPU (8 cores)
                    4 GB Ram, 1.0 TB Video Raid (2x500). 5 ea 1.0 TB External Video. 2 500 gb Ext, 320 GB OS Drive .. ATI Radeon HD 4350 with 512 Ram XP Pro with SP 3 HD Sparks, VisTitle

                    Edius 6.52Dual Xeon Asus P5E3 9650 3.0 4G Ram
                    Nvidia9800, 500G Raid (2x250) 1TB&500TB Ext Drives

                    HPX 2000 AVC Intra, HVX 200, HPX 170, AG-AF 100, Canon D5 MKll.....MacBook G4 w/VMWare FCP Edius 6.2

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                    • #11
                      Hey Mule, you're coping with 10bit footage in a 8bit timeline? hehe

                      I would recommend converting to Canopus HQ (Fine mode) if you want to do more than 2 layers.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by muleferg View Post
                        Hardware settings. change the buffer. If I remember correctly the lowest setting is 127 or close
                        Hey I'm new to this AVC Intra. and in a learning curve.
                        Are you already shooting AVC I and editing in Edius?
                        I need all the help I can get.{:}
                        Mule
                        I have the highest setting and 4gigs of ram and 125 in the 1920 setting.
                        165 in 1440 setting. I think the highest setting in hardware was 512. I am very interested in how you got the 348. Could you please give me a rundown of your settings?

                        Not shooting with that codec. I liked the camera and the 10bit quality of the codec.
                        Jerry
                        Six Gill DV
                        www.sgdvtutorials.com
                        If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

                        Vistitle YouTube Channel
                        https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVlxC8Am4qFbkXJRoPAnMQ/videos

                        Windows 10 Pro up to v.1803 Tweaks for Edius Users
                        http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


                        Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, Corsair H110, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, HD Spark, Intensity Shuttle, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Benq 27 and Hanns-G 28 monitors, CC 2019, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
                        Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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                        • #13
                          Jerry: Checked my settings made sure I was in 1920. You are correct I only got 127 in the buffer. Somehow I must have switched to a lower setting.
                          Thanks for the feedback to you and Dave.

                          Mule
                          EDIUS v5.51 Broadcast - Dual Xeon Supermicro X7DWA-N with E5450 3.0GHz CPU (8 cores)
                          4 GB Ram, 1.0 TB Video Raid (2x500). 5 ea 1.0 TB External Video. 2 500 gb Ext, 320 GB OS Drive .. ATI Radeon HD 4350 with 512 Ram XP Pro with SP 3 HD Sparks, VisTitle

                          Edius 6.52Dual Xeon Asus P5E3 9650 3.0 4G Ram
                          Nvidia9800, 500G Raid (2x250) 1TB&500TB Ext Drives

                          HPX 2000 AVC Intra, HVX 200, HPX 170, AG-AF 100, Canon D5 MKll.....MacBook G4 w/VMWare FCP Edius 6.2

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by muleferg View Post
                            Jerry: Checked my settings made sure I was in 1920. You are correct I only got 127 in the buffer. Somehow I must have switched to a lower setting.
                            Thanks for the feedback to you and Dave.

                            Mule
                            Mule,
                            I was really hoping that I was wrong. Those other buffer frames would be nice to have. By the way, what settings were you in?
                            When you went to 1920 I hope you noticed a big quality boost! You probably noticed a drop in performance as well.
                            Jerry
                            Jerry
                            Six Gill DV
                            www.sgdvtutorials.com
                            If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

                            Vistitle YouTube Channel
                            https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVlxC8Am4qFbkXJRoPAnMQ/videos

                            Windows 10 Pro up to v.1803 Tweaks for Edius Users
                            http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


                            Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, Corsair H110, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, HD Spark, Intensity Shuttle, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Benq 27 and Hanns-G 28 monitors, CC 2019, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
                            Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Jerry View Post
                              Mule,
                              By the way, what settings were you in?
                              Jerry
                              OCHI HD60
                              1920x1080
                              Render Format Canopus HD AVI
                              Canopus HQ Codec Setting Online Standard I have changed to Fine.
                              With the new computer
                              I am unable to view HD yet and looking with some old monitor.

                              I have a Dual Core Xeon 3.4 w/2 g Ram NX Broadcast
                              HD Monitor The 1920 footage is mind blowing.
                              I will be upgrading to the Sharp 1920x1080 soon
                              Mule
                              EDIUS v5.51 Broadcast - Dual Xeon Supermicro X7DWA-N with E5450 3.0GHz CPU (8 cores)
                              4 GB Ram, 1.0 TB Video Raid (2x500). 5 ea 1.0 TB External Video. 2 500 gb Ext, 320 GB OS Drive .. ATI Radeon HD 4350 with 512 Ram XP Pro with SP 3 HD Sparks, VisTitle

                              Edius 6.52Dual Xeon Asus P5E3 9650 3.0 4G Ram
                              Nvidia9800, 500G Raid (2x250) 1TB&500TB Ext Drives

                              HPX 2000 AVC Intra, HVX 200, HPX 170, AG-AF 100, Canon D5 MKll.....MacBook G4 w/VMWare FCP Edius 6.2

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