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    I'm working on our first HD project. It has 4 cameras throughout a wedding. Shift spacebar lets it play about 10-15 seconds before the buffer goes to 1/171. For 2 tracks, it will play more than a minute. In SD, I can easily play 7 tracks on this system. Have not put any filters on video or audio yet. I can mute video tracks and work through the project, just wondering what other work flow options there are?

    Asus P5W DH Deluxe, Core 2 Duo E6600, 4 gigs Kingston RAM, Quadro FX1500, 500 gb SATA system drive, 1TB RAID0 SATA data drive on RocketRAID card, XP Pro SP2, Edius 4.61
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  • #2
    If you're editing in Multi Cam mode, you can switch the 'skip frames' option to drop frames, maintaining overall realtime playback

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    • #3
      Wow, I did not know HD realtime performance was that tough.

      2 tracks without filters and only a minute of playback is pretty far from how I work with DV.

      What would/could one do to get better peformance?

      Is there a better CPU? File type ect...
      Asus Prime X299-A - Intel i9 7900x all cores @4.3GHz 2 cores @4.5GHz - 32GB RAM - NVidia GTX1070 - Edius 9 WG - BM Intensity 4k - Boris RED - Vitascene 2 - Windows 10

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      • #4
        I tested multicam with 4 camera 1440x1080i Pal Canopus HQ and it plays all day long without dropping a frame

        see PC spec in signature
        Last edited by antonsvideo; 05-15-2008, 01:06 AM.
        Anton Strauss
        Antons Video Productions - Sydney

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        • #5
          Originally posted by antonsvideo View Post
          I tested multicam with 4 camera 1440x1080i Pal and it plays all day long without dropping a frame

          see PC spec in signature
          Anton,
          I would be curious to see what that thing will do with full raster uncompressed HD.
          Jerry
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Jerry View Post
            Anton,
            I would be curious to see what that thing will do with full raster uncompressed HD.
            I don't have any such test footage
            Anton Strauss
            Antons Video Productions - Sydney

            EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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            • #7
              Bill,
              Is your HD footage on your timeline m2t or m4v files? Or did you capture to Canopus HQ? If it's the latter, you'll get much more realtime performance.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Jerry View Post
                Anton,
                I would be curious to see what that thing will do with full raster uncompressed HD.
                I'm sure it would be easier for the system to handle except you'll need a crazy RAID setup

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                • #9
                  AVI Files

                  These are Canopus HQ .avi files. They are about 32 gigs per one hour tape. We got through the ceremony using multicam with a tolerable amount of skipping. The buffer stayed at 3/171 most of the time. We'll try turning on skip frames next time. That was dumped onto one track and the others turned off which plays flawlessly.

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                  • #10
                    Bill are you using the rocket raid 2310?


                    You say you have a 1TB RAID 0 is that 4 x 250 gig drives or 2 500's - I am using 4 x 500 sata 2 seagate baraccuda ES class drives and editing a 4 cam shoot in multicam edius 4.6 with full buffer and NO problems with full realtime playback in 1440 x 1080 50 i

                    Check the performance of the raid remember 4 drives in raid 0 will be far faster than 2

                    Not sure if you had 2 x 1tb drives that would be the case..........

                    But my 4 x 500 gigs fly - using HDTACH they achieve over 280mbs in burst mode and over 250 mbs sustained data rate, more than enough for editing HDV in Realtime.

                    Hope this helps
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