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  • CASIO EXILIM EX-F1 and EDIUS

    I recently had a chance to try out and test CASIO's new digital camera/video, the EXILIN EX-F1.

    For those interested in what this camera offers, please take a look at their site here. And for those who don't like to take the time :) here is a simple rundown on what the fuss is all about.

    CASIO EXILIM EX-F1
    Still Digital Camera capabilities
    • 6 Mega pixel resolution
    • 12x optical Zoom
    • Super high speed burst photography- 30-300 fps variable, 300fps, 600fps, 1200fps

    Video Camera capabilities
    • 1280x720 30fps, 1920x1080 60 fields per sec (I am not sure what they mean by this...)
    • High Speed movies:512 × 384 (300 fps), 432 × 192 (600 fps), 336 × 96 (1200 fps)
    • Video format: MOV format, H.264/AVC, IMA-ADPCM (stereo)


    First off, I must warn the readers that video files produced by the EX-F1 are not fully compatible with the present EDIUS. In this, I mean that while all of the videos (except the 1920x720) can be read into EDIUS and edited, the audio track of the HD video (1280x720) can not be read into EDIUS. And as for the FHD Video (1920x1080), you can not even view the video. (I am working with the developers to see if we can support it in the near future)

    With that said, all is not lost.

    High Speed movies lack an audio tract to begin with, so that should not be of any problems. As for the HD and FHD videos, they can be easily captured onto the PC for editing, using the Pegasus or the new ADVC-HD50, at the full resolution.

    The most unique point about the EX-F1 is in it High speed photography and videos. Though you have a limited resolution for the videos, you can caputre some great slow motion videos, with very little effort.

    Here are a few samples of videos that I have taken with the EX-F1:
    CASIO EXILIM EX-F1 Slow motion Photography Pigeon in flight
    EX-F1 Butterfly in flight 300fps!

    *Please note that video quality is somewhat degraded due to Youtube's video quality.

    Another interesting capability of the camera, for all of you photo journalists out there, is the ability to snap full res photos without interrupting filming at HD or FHD! You can film an interview or a speech, and snap (up to to 20 pics) of the person, at the same time, cutting down on the need to use juggle two cameras at the same time.

  • #2
    Hi Andrew,

    Cool camera!

    *Please note that video quality is somewhat degraded due to Youtube's video quality.
    Yes Youtube's video quality is shocking.

    Give http://www.vimeo.com/hd a go, they display HD on their site for free.

    Bill
    .
    GESTOS PRODUCTIONS
    www.gpvideo.com.au

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Mr Bill View Post
      Hi Andrew,

      Cool camera!



      Yes Youtube's video quality is shocking.

      Give http://www.vimeo.com/hd a go, they display HD on their site for free.

      Bill
      I'll give them a try, thanks!

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      • #4
        Are we discussing a camera here?
        Rusty Rogers | Films
        >TYAN S7025 - 32GB RAM, 2 x Xeon X5690's, 4 x 10k video HD's, Win10 x64, BM DecklinkHD, nVidia TITAN, 12TB DroboPro w/iSCISI connection
        >RAZER BLADE - QHD+ - 16GB RAM, i7-6700HQ Quad, 512GB SSD, Win10 x64, GeForce GTX 1060 6GB

        An inglorious peace is better than a dishonorable war.
        Twain - "Glances at History" 1906

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        • #5
          First off, I must warn the readers that video files produced by the EX-F1 are not fully compatible with the present EDIUS.
          Is there any way to convert that footage in order to edit it with Edius?
          Aristotelis Bafaloukos
          Systems Engineer, Video Editor, 3D Artist
          BEng (Hons), MSc, MBCS

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Aristotelis View Post
            Is there any way to convert that footage in order to edit it with Edius?
            At present, you can only edit the HD (720p) as well as the high speed footage within EDIUS, but no audio for HD Video. As for FHD mode (1920x1080i <turns out that the video is 60fps interlaced), we are working on a possible solution (Support for FDH mode should allow for audio in HD mode).

            There are, however, drivers for the Apple mac, that will allow for the playback and editing of the video, but I have not found anything for Windows at this moment.

            The only solution that we have at present to edit videos from the EX-F1, is to capture the video via HDMI using the Pegasus or the AVCD-HD50 (This works like a charm for both audio and video).

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            • #7
              Vimeo

              "Give http://www.vimeo.com/hd a go, they display HD on their site for free."

              How do you export from Edius 4/Procoder 3 to H264? I can't find the settings on mine.
              TIA

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              • #8
                Procoder 3 > H264 > HD

                PC3 takes a long time to encode to H264, it uses many passes above 2. I just use QuickTime Pro for that. I export uncompressed avi into After Effects from EDIUS then blend the fields, and then open that in QTPro to export to H264 multi-pass.

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                • #9
                  Thanks Dave,
                  I was trying to do it from PCExpress from Edius 4 directly and did not realized it.
                  You are correct, PC3 (full version) indeed allows you to compress to H264.
                  Thanks!

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                  • #10
                    May I suggest...

                    PCE will compress to H264, but the bit rate is too high for vimeo.

                    Export your timeline with PCE to H264, then use Streamclip to re-encode to 5000 kbps for best results with vimeo. (1800 kbps for SD) If you need a higher bitrate and can keep your file size under 500mb/week it's a great place to allow downloading of your work.
                    Rusty Rogers | Films
                    >TYAN S7025 - 32GB RAM, 2 x Xeon X5690's, 4 x 10k video HD's, Win10 x64, BM DecklinkHD, nVidia TITAN, 12TB DroboPro w/iSCISI connection
                    >RAZER BLADE - QHD+ - 16GB RAM, i7-6700HQ Quad, 512GB SSD, Win10 x64, GeForce GTX 1060 6GB

                    An inglorious peace is better than a dishonorable war.
                    Twain - "Glances at History" 1906

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                    • #11
                      I'm not sure what the problem is -- both Procoder 3 and Procoder Express for Edius allow you to set the bitrate for QuickTime/H.264. There is no need for multiple tools or time-consuming re-encoding.

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                      • #12
                        Problem?
                        Operator dyslexia!
                        So I look a little closer next time!
                        I'll get the hang of this eventually.
                        Rusty Rogers | Films
                        >TYAN S7025 - 32GB RAM, 2 x Xeon X5690's, 4 x 10k video HD's, Win10 x64, BM DecklinkHD, nVidia TITAN, 12TB DroboPro w/iSCISI connection
                        >RAZER BLADE - QHD+ - 16GB RAM, i7-6700HQ Quad, 512GB SSD, Win10 x64, GeForce GTX 1060 6GB

                        An inglorious peace is better than a dishonorable war.
                        Twain - "Glances at History" 1906

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                        • #13
                          I AM the one with Dyslexia!!
                          First thing in the Morn I am going to put on my magnifying glasses and look for the darn H264 setting on PCE to directly export from the timeline and not have to re-encode on PC3.

                          Rusty, the video of the water plant on Vimeo is Awesome! Great work for a poor subject. Congratulations.

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                          • #14
                            I'll make it easy on you guys -- I wrote up step-by-step instructions on another forum:

                            http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=759673

                            Note that in the last screen, you can specify the desired bitrate. You probably also want to change the keyframe interval to automatic, and change the audio codec to something other than uncompressed or the files will be unnecessarily large.

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                            • #15
                              I was finally able to upload a sample of video filmed with the EX-F1.
                              you can find it here.

                              As stated on the site, the video was made as follows:

                              Ingested EX-F1 footage via HDMI cable with GV's Pegasus at 1920x1080i (except 1 scene where the original source was 720p). The ingested video (Canopus HQ codec) was then edited within EDIUS Pro 4.6 -> a couple a transitions added -> and exported to WMV ([email protected]).

                              (NOTE: I would have uploaded the Canopus HQ codec version, if it wasn't for the fact that the 4 min. clip was 4Gb.)

                              This should give you a basic idea of the video quality after it has been through the Pegasus and transcoded into WMV.

                              I will try to see if I can upload native 1080i videos from the EX-F1 to the site.

                              *update*
                              I was able to upload 720p footage (with audio) onto Vimeo here. This should give you a rough idea on the video quality at 720p.

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