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    I have a clip that was shot in a low light condition with the camcorder gain set fairly high and as expect I am seeing quite a bit of noise, I never have had a condition like this one before, is the any way in Edius Pro to lessen the amount of noise.

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    Jeff King
    Canopus HDBX-1000H, Second RX-E1 HD card for HD SDI capture, Complete NX set, Edius 6.08, Media Composer 7.02, Premiere Pro CS 6 and CC, Encore CS 6. I7 990, X58 Supermicro, 24 GB DDR 3 1066 memory, System Drive WD 10,000 RPM 500 GB HD X 2 in Raid 0, Capture Drive WD 10,000 RPM 500 GB HD X 2 in Raid 0. Storage Drive WD Black 1.5 TB HD and a EVGA GTX 780 VC.

  • #2
    I am not in front of my WS with Edius but recall that ProCoder (2 and 3) has a "Temporal Noise Reduction" filter.

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    • #3
      You can use the "Median" filter to reduce video noise.

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      • #4
        Tried but no luck

        I tried that filter but did not see any effect, thank you any way for your input.
        Canopus HDBX-1000H, Second RX-E1 HD card for HD SDI capture, Complete NX set, Edius 6.08, Media Composer 7.02, Premiere Pro CS 6 and CC, Encore CS 6. I7 990, X58 Supermicro, 24 GB DDR 3 1066 memory, System Drive WD 10,000 RPM 500 GB HD X 2 in Raid 0, Capture Drive WD 10,000 RPM 500 GB HD X 2 in Raid 0. Storage Drive WD Black 1.5 TB HD and a EVGA GTX 780 VC.

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        • #5
          So far only NeatVideo works really well (from what I have tested)

          Too bad there is no Edius plugin yet, so you'll have to export your video and use the free virtual dub software with NeatVideo plugged in as filter.

          Result is great and render pretty fast.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by jeff king View Post
            I have a clip that was shot in a low light condition with the camcorder gain set fairly high and as expect I am seeing quite a bit of noise, I never have had a condition like this one before, is the any way in Edius Pro to lessen the amount of noise.

            Help
            Jeff King
            to remove grain caused by low light shooting, add the Edius motion blur filer and try anything up to 30%
            Anton Strauss
            Antons Video Productions - Sydney

            EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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            • #7
              Originally posted by antonsvideo View Post
              to remove grain caused by low light shooting, add the Edius motion blur filer and try anything up to 30%
              I've been doing your suggestion and it smooths things out pretty good without taking away from regular detail.
              Main System. MSI G33m Motherboard, Intel Q6600 CPU, 2GB Ram, GeForce 9500GT, 7200rpm System drive. WinXP. Lots of external eSATA drives.

              Laptop. Sony Vaio. CPU- i7-Gen 3, 8gb RAM, 1tbb 5400rpm hard drive, AMD GPU

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              • #8
                Jeff,

                I've used Anton's suggestion quite a bit, and it works well. However, there have been instances where adding a small amount of "smooth blur" (no more than about a 5) to a scene where there's a lot of movement eliminates the "grain" or "noise", without causing any motion blur per se.

                But in really terrible noise situations, and I know this is an extra step, I have found NOTHING that works as well as "NEAT for VisualDub". It's nearly flawless. But you have to import the clip into VisualDub, apply the NEAT filter, play with a slew of very effective parameters of your choice, then output to and *.avi and back into EDIUS. I've taken scenes that are so dark they can barely been seen on the monitor, added bringtness and contrast to them until they are quite visible - even though the noise ratio is nearly 1:1 by that time - and put it through NEAT with a very acceptable and surprising result. Worth looking at the "trial" versions!

                Best of luck and cheers,
                Alan
                Alan J. Levi
                Director

                SYSTEM: ASUS P8Z77-VPro mobo, Intel 3770K CPU, 16 Gig Crucial 1866 RAM, Antec 1000W PS, EVGA nVidia 560Ti 1Gig Video, CoolerMaster CPU cooler, LG GGW-H20L BluRay DVD, SPARK card w/23" Samsung 1920x1080 Monitor, OCZ 240GB SSD boot in Swapable Tray & 3 WD Enterprise 1TB video RAID 5 HDD's. 4.5TB RAID 1 Outboard backups, Behringer2000 Audio Fader/Controller

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                • #9
                  Neat for Visualdub

                  I have tried to find Visualdub and have ran across a few different ones, by any chance could you give me some more info or a link.
                  Thank You
                  Jeff King
                  Canopus HDBX-1000H, Second RX-E1 HD card for HD SDI capture, Complete NX set, Edius 6.08, Media Composer 7.02, Premiere Pro CS 6 and CC, Encore CS 6. I7 990, X58 Supermicro, 24 GB DDR 3 1066 memory, System Drive WD 10,000 RPM 500 GB HD X 2 in Raid 0, Capture Drive WD 10,000 RPM 500 GB HD X 2 in Raid 0. Storage Drive WD Black 1.5 TB HD and a EVGA GTX 780 VC.

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                  • #10
                    Here is the download page for VirtualDub:
                    http://virtualdub.sourceforge.net/

                    Here is the HomePage for VirtualDub:
                    http://www.virtualdub.org/index.html

                    Here's the NeatVideo site:
                    http://www.neatvideo.com/

                    NeatVideo plug-ins also work in After Effects, Premiere, Sony Vegas / Movie Studio, VirtualDub and Pinnacle Studio.

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                    • #11
                      Thank's

                      I downloaded the two programs and could open a clip I captured in Canopus HQ with no problems, checked the Neat filter and it worked also but had to leave before doing any changes to the clip. Question, if I apply changes will Edius load changed clip or is there something additional needed.

                      Thanks for the link.

                      Jeff King
                      Canopus HDBX-1000H, Second RX-E1 HD card for HD SDI capture, Complete NX set, Edius 6.08, Media Composer 7.02, Premiere Pro CS 6 and CC, Encore CS 6. I7 990, X58 Supermicro, 24 GB DDR 3 1066 memory, System Drive WD 10,000 RPM 500 GB HD X 2 in Raid 0, Capture Drive WD 10,000 RPM 500 GB HD X 2 in Raid 0. Storage Drive WD Black 1.5 TB HD and a EVGA GTX 780 VC.

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                      • #12
                        Reloading new file...

                        Jeff,
                        I always find it safer to retain the "old" file, just in case, and rename the file coming out of VirtualDub with the NEAT changes. Then reload the new file and apply to timeline. I always want to save my original file in tact since there might be a desire to go back and later change it in some way once again. It's an extra step, I know - but rather safe than sorry! Only takes a minute.
                        Cheers,
                        Alan
                        Alan J. Levi
                        Director

                        SYSTEM: ASUS P8Z77-VPro mobo, Intel 3770K CPU, 16 Gig Crucial 1866 RAM, Antec 1000W PS, EVGA nVidia 560Ti 1Gig Video, CoolerMaster CPU cooler, LG GGW-H20L BluRay DVD, SPARK card w/23" Samsung 1920x1080 Monitor, OCZ 240GB SSD boot in Swapable Tray & 3 WD Enterprise 1TB video RAID 5 HDD's. 4.5TB RAID 1 Outboard backups, Behringer2000 Audio Fader/Controller

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                        • #13
                          Adding the Motion Blur filter seems to work a fair bit on only slightly noisy shots. Anyone have any further things to add on what you have found out?
                          Motion Art Cinematography

                          Windows 10 Home 64 bit, Intel I7 4.2ghz, 32GB Ram, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1070

                          Gold Coast, Australia

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                          • #14
                            Best noise filter is still Neat Video. I export the clips that requires noise reduction (especially those taken by HVX202 in low light conditions) to After Effects and run Neat Video on it. It is a world of a difference. Right now, I don't do that anymore - as the HPX172 is a very much better camera. Very low noise.
                            TingSern
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