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  • A/B Editing vs Insert Editing

    I notice in the Feature Requests section a request for a feature to "Auto adjust track-to-track transition length" and the Moderator notes:
    [BH] ... While EDIUS supports some aspects of A/B editing, it is not designed as an A/B editor....

    I wonder how many users prefer A/B to Insert and what gets used the most, and why? Comments welcomed!

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    Most, if not all, NLE's have moved away from A/B editing into single track editing. It is much better in my opinion and I could never go back.

    You could do A/B editing in EDIUS, but you're better off doing everything on a single track and if you need to add in b-roll (even with transitions, you can use the keyer track to add transitions) just use a V or AV track above the single track of the main edited project.

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    • #3
      I have to admit that when I first started using single track editing it was a little strange to me but like Dave I would never go back :)

      Some reasons... trimming seems more logical and easier now.

      Transitions now seem easier to work with.

      Mike

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      • #4
        Single track editing gives you so much more real estate over A/B. That really helps when you start having a multi-track composite with lots of titles and audio tracks.

        Single track is also easier to stay organized.

        And can you imagine multi-camera with A/B!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by GrassValley_MD View Post
          I have to admit that when I first started using single track editing it was a little strange to me but like Dave I would never go back :)
          Same here that was my first dislike of Edius, but please don't change it is just great, took less than a day for the concept to sink in
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          • #6
            But a LOT of the NLE world is still geared/focused on A/B editing. How many times do we get questions like "how many layers/tracks can you edit in realtime?" I get that one every day and twice on Sunday. It makes me wonder just how many users of other NLEs and just NLE users in general do what. It would make an interesting study.

            I couldn't agree more that single track editing is so much easier and easier to wrap your mind around, especially when dealing with transitions.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by STORMDAVE View Post
              Most, if not all, NLE's have moved away from A/B editing into single track editing. It is much better in my opinion and I could never go back.

              You could do A/B editing in EDIUS, but you're better off doing everything on a single track and if you need to add in b-roll (even with transitions, you can use the keyer track to add transitions) just use a V or AV track above the single track of the main edited project.


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              • #8
                I like AB type editing, it is so easy to fine tune multi layer projects after the basic edit is done
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                • #9
                  I just got this software and am migrating from Premiere 6.5

                  How/what menu do I use to enable A/B editing in version 5?

                  Thanks, [email protected]

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by chec View Post
                    I just got this software and am migrating from Premiere 6.5

                    How/what menu do I use to enable A/B editing in version 5?

                    Thanks, [email protected]
                    There is no menu or anything different that you have to do. Simply place one clip on one video track and another clip on another video track. You can dissolve between the 2 if you like.

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                    • #11
                      I guess I'm still old school and prefer A/B, but I definitely like the flexibility of mixing A/B and single track. That's one of the things I definitely love about Edius - that flexibility to mix styles and to nest sequences as A/B or single track.

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                      • #12
                        I've never been able to get the hang of single track. I found that adjusting the transition length would often bring back the junk that I had carefully trimmed off the end of a clip. How to stop that from happening?

                        Richard

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by jaegersing View Post
                          I've never been able to get the hang of single track. I found that adjusting the transition length would often bring back the junk that I had carefully trimmed off the end of a clip. How to stop that from happening?

                          Richard
                          turn off 'EXTEND VIDEO' for transitions - I think from memory its the 1st tick box in the application prefs

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                          • #14
                            I mostly don't use AB, though there are always times when using a second track is handy. Recently started to use it more, but only because I've been doing a fair bit of two-camera recording (and of course when compositing -that doesn't count!)
                            But I've hired three casual editors- on both avids and edius- and I've noticed that 2 of them always do AB and 1 never ever does. I think it's a style you either fall into, or don't.
                            When I started on Premiere (1999), it pushed you towards this style- with transitions over-lapping- but you could opt for a single video track. So I started out that way, and found moving to single-track on edit* a little strange at first- then natural, and when I went back to using premiere, I was using a single track almost all the time.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by mattie View Post
                              turn off 'EXTEND VIDEO' for transitions - I think from memory its the 1st tick box in the application prefs
                              Thanks, will give that a try!

                              Richard

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