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  • Edius 4.0 16:9 vs 4:3 slow mo problem

    I have been editing on Edius 4.0 with SD footage shot with a vx-2000 and have had no problems. I recently switched to the Sony Z1U & FX1. The video downconverted from HD to SD in the camera and loaded fine with 16:9 footage. My preview monitor is still 4:3 so I have the black bars on top and bottom. Here is the problem, when I apply slow motion at 50%, I get a flicker effect on the top and bottom of the image where the image meets the black bars. The only way I have been able to stop the flicker is by going into the clip properties and selecting "progressive" in the Field Order drop down menu. Am I going to have to do this with every clip? There must be a better way. I have many clips and I use lots of slow motion.

    I don't know if this makes a difference, but in the project settings, I used an output format of DV 29.97p 4:3, 48khs. This is the one I always used with SD 4:3 footage. I tried the output format of DV 29.97p 16:9, 48khs but my preview monitor (which is a 4:3 tv) showed the widescreen image but with black bars on the top, bottom, and sides, as if it just shrunk the image completely.

  • #2
    when editing 16:9 SD footage, choose a 16:9 SD DV project setting, you will need a 16:9 monitor or a TV monitor that is 16:9/4:3 switchable

    or you can turn off the monitor and look at the Edius preview window, it will be proper 16:9

    the flicker you see won't be seen by anyone with 16:9 TV, LCD or Plasma because they all hide the overscan area where the flicker occurs
    Anton Strauss
    Antons Video Productions - Sydney

    EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro 21H2

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    • #3
      Thanks for the quick reply. Can you recommend a monitor?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Scott View Post
        Thanks for the quick reply. Can you recommend a monitor?
        sure, in what price range?
        more than $5000 Sony or Panasonic have plenty pro monitors
        more than $1000 (I use Fujitsu 42' HD Plasma, great quality in SD and HD and no lag during camera pan, cost was $3200, maybe cheaper by now)
        less than $1000 not much that is good
        Anton Strauss
        Antons Video Productions - Sydney

        EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro 21H2

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        • #5
          Right now I have a 21" computer monitor and a 13" tv to view the output. I was hoping to spend less than $1000. Is there a computer monitor that can double as both?

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          • #6
            yes, dell have a 20" widescreen model but the video quality is crap

            they also have a 24" model which is around $1000 or less and some users here have it and like it, I have not seen the quality but hopefully it is not as bad as the 20"

            also, if you go to your local TV shop, you will find many widescreen LCD TV's for under $1000, look at their quality while there and take one that looks best and has the least lag during camera pans and fast action such as sport, stand there for a while and you will soon spot the better ones
            Anton Strauss
            Antons Video Productions - Sydney

            EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro 21H2

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            • #7
              Thanks for your time.

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              • #8
                the flicker you see won't be seen by anyone with 16:9 TV, LCD or Plasma because they all hide the overscan area where the flicker occurs
                Scot if your work is going to be viewed on 4:3 TV/monitor, it will become letterboxed. ie, black top and bottom of the 4:3 screen.

                In this situation, and to cover yourself you probably should crop the pixels off.

                2 choices
                layout tool, say 9 pixels maybe
                region filter on a separate V track blacking out the offending

                Also holds for webstreaming material where you get overscan showing.
                peterC
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                Edius 3 v3.62 beta / DVRexRT cards
                (Please don't throw stones, it works!)
                Edius 9 v3

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                • #9
                  Any job I do 4x3 or 16x9 I crop using the region tool, just a tiny tiny bit, never any flicker / or 3D transition effect rubbish showing at the end of the video frame boundry.

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