How to do this in Edius

[Philip]

I recently got a training DVD on colorization techniques for video. It was pretty informative and I was able to translate a few of the techniques into Edius techniques based on what I know of the filterset.

There was one technique the creator used I haven't figured out how to do easily. He was using FCP with some Nattress filter plugins. There was a vignette plugin that allowed you to adjust the size of the vignette easily. From within the filter you could also apply blending using the same options we have with the Keyers in Edius. This was all in one filter.

The only way I could think of to do this in Edius was to use photoshop to create a transparent matte/vignette and put it on a track above my clip and then use the keyer to adjust the overlay setting. While this works if you make the vignette the wrong size you have to go back to photoshop and readjust it and then that vignette would have to be the same for every clip. With the FCP filter you could adust it by the clip to optimize the colorization based on the clip contents.

Is there an easy way to do this short of a transparent matte layer and the keyer track? I can kinda get the same effect by using border darkening only in the old movie filter but the amount is identical for every clip and you lose the ability of the Keyer track options for the overlay.

I hope all that makes sense....I guess if you are a FCP user as well it may. Anyone have ideas that don't involve a drawn out process. If I want to jump through lots of hoops and spend lots of time I will use another NLE and have to render all the time. :-)

[Rusty]

Here's hoping I'm reading this correctly, but what you want sounds pretty easy.

Did you try...
1) Copy your clip(s) to a track above. (select, Ctrl+drag)
2) Apply the Old Movie filter only to the upper clip. Set Border Darkening to 250.
3) Adjust border size with the upper track Keyer rubberband.

Mind the De-interlacing... it must be applied on both tracks or not at all!

[Philip]

Here's hoping I'm reading this correctly, but what you want sounds pretty easy.

Did you try...
1) Copy your clip(s) to a track above. (select, Ctrl+drag)
2) Apply the Old Movie filter only to the upper clip. Set Border Darkening to 250.
3) Adjust border size with the upper track Keyer rubberband.

Mind the De-interlacing... it must be applied on both tracks or not at all!

That may work fairly well. I will have to try it when I get to the part of an edit where the colorization stuff is a possibility.

Thanks,

[slapper6875]

Hi,

Ive tried this method and it completely over-saturates the image in a horrible way.

Is there something I need to do to avoid this?

I've also tried using the mask tool to draw a vignette and this leaves horrible banding.

What is the BEST way to draw a vignette inside of edius?

A dedicated vignette filter would be a good addition to edius!

Thanks

[Rusty]

This is a really, REALLY old post! :~)
Mask will work best in a 10 bit project.
Use the Color Balance filter outside the Mask and add a lot of softness to the edge.

[Jerry]

The old movie filter has issues with vertical lines being seen in both 8 bit and 10 bit projects. This has been reported.

Short of getting New Blue, Sapphire, or MB looks, you can make vignettes fairly easy with the mask tool. You can use either the blend filter for two filters or the combine filter for several. This way you can add what you need and adjust it in the individual filter's setup panel.
For simple vignettes, just use the Color option with plenty of blur and you should be good to go. You can also save these vignettes that you create as a user preset.
Banding is not an issue with either of these methods in either 8 or 10 bit projects.