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  • #16
    Originally posted by STORMDAVE View Post
    The ONLY downside I see with the HPX500 is that it has a 960x540 imager (same as the HVX200, but 2/3")...you go one step above (HPX2000) and it is a native 1280x720 imager with support for AVC Intra (upto Full HD, 10bit)...and the body only costs ~$27k.
    where does it say that? I have all brochures and pdf's on the HPX502 (Pal model) and it gives no spec on CCD size

    I also noticed that there is a 700, 800 and 900 now
    http://panasonic.com.au/products/cat...?objectID=3346
    Anton Strauss
    Antons Video Productions - Sydney

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    • #17
      Check dvxuser.com forum. One of the Panasonic reps even mentioned that if you uprez an SDX900 image (SD version of the HDX900) it will look as good as the HPX500 HD image.

      I have no idea about the other models as the U.S. carries only 3 of the HPX cameras (and the upcoming HPX170, small cam).

      EDIT: Just checked the link...the other cams are all SD. Those have been 'discontinued' in the U.S.

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      • #18
        [QUOTE=antonsvideo;34946]
        Originally posted by Bassman View Post

        you will need a HD lens for the HPX-500 and that will set you back $10K

        then you need Anton Bauer batteries and charger, another $5k

        then you will need P2 cards, another $3k to $9k

        then ideally you will need a 5 slot P2 card reader that you can mount in PC another $3k
        These are not incorrect, but they can be worked around:

        -I use a battery belt for my SD camera now, it will power the HPX-500.

        -Since most delivery will be for DVD in the near future anyway, I think one would be well served to run this camera in DVCPro50 until the Blu-Ray situation gets resolved.

        This plays into the SD lens situation as well.

        -I factored in $3,500 for P2 cards - $8,000+$3,500=$11,500, still less than the EX3 without a long lens.

        -The P2 card reader might be handy, but I can get by using the camera or my laptop as an ingest device.

        With a used SD lens, one could get into this setup for under $14,000 total.
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        • #19
          I am thinking of buying the EX1. You mention in you post recently some issues with the EX1:

          "It's true, the EX1 has some very unfortunate issues, however, I'm very happy with mine."

          I just wondered what they were?

          Richard

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          • #20
            There are issues with back focus when using the ND filters, there is no IR filter on the camera, which "sees" some man made materials which are black, as red, so best buy a thin 486 filter, the batteries drain if left on the camera for a couple of days - not a disaster but pretty stupid, downconverting material from the EX is difficult, although the new Sony browser soft coming in June (ish) is supposed to add a downconvert to SD function.

            Oh, some camera's paint is peeling off .... and the vignetting issue .... it's all here: http://dvinfo.net/conf/forumdisplay.php?f=150

            but heck, it's cheap..


            Paul
            Last edited by PaulTV; 04-16-2008, 09:58 AM.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by PaulTV View Post
              Oh, some camera's paint is peeling off ....
              From use on the beach (salt water & air maybe)

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              • #22
                He He He very true!

                Paul
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by PaulTV View Post
                  There are issues with back focus when using the ND filters, there is no IR filter on the camera, which "sees" some man made materials which are black, as red, so best buy a thin 486 filter, the batteries drain if left on the camera for a couple of days - not a disaster but pretty stupid, downconverting material from the EX is difficult, although the new Sony browser soft coming in June (ish) is supposed to add a downconvert to SD function.

                  Oh, some camera's paint is peeling off .... and the vignetting issue .... it's all here: http://dvinfo.net/conf/forumdisplay.php?f=150

                  but heck, it's cheap..


                  Paul

                  Thanks Paul. Yes, it is cheap, which is why I am very keen to upgrade from my (waits for laughs) PD150 which has been a work horse so so much. The down converting presumably is where Edius comes in once edited?

                  I never leave the batteries on the camera anyway after a shoot and the other stuff I can easily live with. Thanks for the advice.

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                  • #24
                    Actually Edius is bad at it, as is Procoder, unless you use a frame server, it's all too complicated, but, download a little free applcation called Virtualdub, this does a resize of your finished HD master for SD purposes, its as clean as it gets, very good indeed.

                    it's all here anyway http://ediusforum.grassvalley.com/fo...ead.php?t=5141

                    Paul
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                    • #25
                      GV Infinity is getting better

                      GV Infinity is now getting new improved media with longer recording time
                      40 GB and 65 GB.
                      http://www.thomsongrassvalley.com/news/press/

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by GrassValley_KH View Post
                        From what I can determine (being at the NAB Sony Booth), yes, it's supported.

                        I have the Ex and the work flow is fantastic with Edius Broadcast. When I arrive home after an event with over 4 hours of tape I have at least a day to get it in the computer. With the EX work flow in about 20 minutes I have all the clips on the timeline and am editing away. It has saved me at least a whole day in editing my projects. Open the tools dropdown in the bin window and the Sony clip browser opens. Point it to the ex clips, highlight them all and drag them into the bin. Highlight them all again and one click puts them all on the timeline in the right order.

                        Instant editing!!

                        Ronnie
                        Ronnie Martin
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                        • #27
                          Does any one know if you can shoot in 4:3 ratio with EX1?

                          I have been shooting with a PD150 in 720x576 for clients for a while and they still want the end product in this ratio or will it always be 16:9 with the EX1?

                          Or is there a tweak in Edius that you use?

                          Cheers in advance, Richard.

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                          • #28
                            No 4:3 with the EX1. The Low-Rez is 1440x1080, so you'll need to use Layout in Edius.

                            (not sure, but) I'll bet the EX1 viewfinder has 4:3 marks available.
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                            • #29
                              Thanks Rusty, I had a look at that Layout option and that is pretty useful! So I will be doing some tests with it.

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