Edius HD and Closed Caption

[Fusion]

We're wondering if the edius unit will pass the closed captioning data through it? Also does the captioning remain there if converted from SD to HD, and vice versa? Any help or guidance is greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Joe

[7hbg]

What is your 'CC' source?
'CC' is encoded differently on different media.
'CC' on DVD is done different then in DV AVI file and then again different if in analog form.

EDIT:
I just did an “SD ‘CC’ pass through test” (I’m not set up for HD cc) and found that as long as the file is encoded correctly and you are not applying any filters, just cuts and dissolves the cc data is preserved in the output file. The down side is that Canopus hardware (in my case NX) is not ‘CC aware’ so it will not generate the line 21 from cc in the file. In order to test/view it, you need to have the project in OHCI mode, feeding probably something like a Sony cam or a deck, connected to a CC capable monitor.

[RonnieMartin]

I found out by accident that the old REX M1 card and Rex Edit will pass the CC. I had a project where the original audio was in another language and the CC was in English. It was an infomercial. The client wanted some 800 numbers added in the comercial section of the project for different parts of the US. It was also in Pal and he wanted it converted. The old REX M1 machine worked like a charm and BTW it still does. Quite a long life for a NLE.

Ronnie

[GrassValley_BH]

Non-RT RexEdit doesn't recompress unchanged DV, and the Sony DVBK1 codec on the DVRex-M1 does capture and decode Closed Caption, so this is one case where non-realtime actually works better.

[RonnieMartin]

It was actually Brandon that sugested that I try the Rex.

Ronnie

[GrassValley_BH]

Hahaha I did, didn't I? I'm getting old...

[RonnieMartin]

Hahaha I did, didn't I? I'm getting old...

Brandon you are just a young pup...... from my perspective the age order is God, Dirt and then me..... you are a long way from me..... I have suits older than you...

Take care

Ronnie

[Fusion]

Ive heard there is a new beta version out that allows CC? Anyone hear this? Sorry I never replied. We figured out that Edius wouldnt pass CC, and we've been jumping through hoops/scrambling ever since. How you can say you sell a broadcast system and not pass CC is crazy to me. <- a little venting.

Just a little background on our setup. We have a live HD source going directly into a Edius "Broadcast" bay. From there we would like to EE it straight out to a HD MPeg Encoder, with CC passing through. Or record the show with CC, and send it out through the HD Encoder later on. Since CC doesnt pass through, we have a temp solution of playing the HD cast out of the edit bay, and also scrolling a live prompt from our news script app. Otherwise we send live shows directly to the HD encoder while scrolling CC, and totally bypassing Edius. As you know this is a pain in the a**.

So if anyone has heard anything on a feature that should already be available, please let me know. I appreciate the help.

Thanks

Joe

[GrassValley_BH]

I'm not aware of anything new on the CC front.
The only time I'm aware of CC even having a chance of passing through EDIUS is if all of the following conditions are true:

1. Your source is MPEG-2 with embedded CC data
2. Your project settings exactly match the source clips
3. You only cut/assemble (no filters, no effects - these will eat the CC)
4. You output to MPEG-2 using SegmentEncode with the exact settings the source MPEG-2 clips use (otherwise SegmentEncode won't work)

I'm not saying this won't change in the future, but I can't promise that it will either. This is how it is at the moment.

[Fusion]

Thanks for the info.