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    Hope some body can give me advise, I am currently busy with a production, the company has given me certificates to use in the production , I did scan them high res (48bit tiff 600dpi) , then reduced the pictures down to 150dpi 720 x576 8bit rgb in PS and saved it as a psd, to use in Edius 4.5. but I get a very poor end result when it is used in Edius on SD as a end product.Should I use tag file or tiff and what rez ?

    Thanks

  • #2
    never change the dpi after scanning

    simply change the dimension to 768x576 for 4:3 (do not use 720x576)

    apply 90deg x 1pix motion blur

    check levels, around 16 for blackest and 235 for brightest

    use tga 24bit

    or leave image at full res and do a slow move over it with IM2
    Anton Strauss
    Antons Video Productions - Sydney

    EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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    • #3
      Thanks for this tip, Anton.

      I am into scanning this weekend, so I am happy to know this already.

      /Ulf
      Best regards * Ulf * Denmark
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Ingwe
        I did scan them high res (48bit tiff 600dpi) , then reduced the pictures down to 150dpi 720 x576 8bit rgb in PS and saved it as a psd, to use in Edius 4.5. but I get a very poor end result
        The above scanning settings are illegal for SD NTSC or PAL. Remember that there's a pixel aspect ratio difference that must be taken into consideration: 0.9:1 vs 1:1. Assuming you're scanning for PAL, then you should crop/scale your photo in Photoshop at 768 x 576, then import it in Edius. (There's another school of taught advocating the size of 788 x 576 for PAL, also taking into account the Digital Blanking Space of 18 pixels).

        Anton Strauss suggestion above is an excellent one, particularly the white and black levels.

        In short, I use the following table to scale from/to TV/Photoshop: (sRGB color space and scanning at 300spi)

        601 NTSC 4:3 720 x 486 <-> 720 x 540
        DV NTSC 4:3 720 x 480 <-> 720 x 534
        601 NTSC 16:9 anamorphic 720 x 486 <-> 960 x 533
        DV NTSC 16:9 anamorphic 720 x 480 <-> 960 x 540
        601/DV PAL 720 x 576 <-> 768 x 576
        601/DV PAL Anamorphic 720 x 576 <-> 1024 x 576
        720i/p high definition 1280 x 720 <-> N/A
        1080i/p high definition 1920 x 1080 <-> N/A

        Other tables, advocating slightly different numbers here (depending how much of a purist you want to be)

        To avoid color artifacts, for NTSC work, I then apply a filter to compress the out-of-gamut saturated blue&red colors:
        Filter > Video > NTSC Colors

        If you're involved in a production company and do a lot of scanning for video, I highly recommend using ScanGuide Pro. These scanning tables will tell you at what resolution, dpi, etc to scan (and much more than you ever cared or wanted to know) in order to achieve optimal results for your video stills.
        Last edited by GreekTV; 04-11-2008, 03:51 PM.
        Dimitri Papadopoulos


        Edius 6.01. My system: Windows 7 SP1 Ultimate 64-bit, Dell Precision WorkStation T3500, Intel Dual-Core Xeon W3503 CPU @ 2.4 GHz, 8 GB 1.3GHz DDR3 ECC DIMMs, Seagate 2TB 7200 rpm SATA HD, BFG nVidia GeForce GT 740 4GB CUDA GPU, DirectX 11, QuickTime 7.7.9 Pro, M-Audio Audiophile 2496 audio card, Orange Micro SCI FireWave 51005-7000 rev 1.3 IEEE1394a 3-port card (Texas Instruments chipset), Canon GL2 Camera and SONY DSR-25 DVCAM VTR.

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        • #5
          Thanks Dimitri - good addition.

          /Ulf
          Best regards * Ulf * Denmark
          mail to me
          Main system: i7 3930K, 3.2 GHz @ 4.3 GHz, 32 GB RAM , 2 x WD 1TB Raid 0, 2 x 1 TB HDD, 1 x SSD boot, Nvidia GFX 570, Win 7 64.
          Second system: i7 970, 3.2 GHz, 24 GB RAM, Asus P6T, Samsung 840 Pro 120 GB systemdrive, 4 x WD 1TB in raid 5, 1 WD 500 GB for exports, Asus GTX 460 Win 7 64.
          Third system: Dell Precision M4600, i7 3.2 GHz, 16 GB RAM, Nvidia Quadro 2GB, 2 x SSD, win 7 64 Pro.

          Edius 7.01 & 6.54 & - VisTitle 2

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          • #6
            If you have a later version of Photoshop, it already has presets for you so no need to use correct aspect ratio files, it does it for you with a "preview" mode.

            I usually scan pictures, color correct them, and leave them in the original resolution...I then load it up into After Effects and do photo stuff there. I try to scan the files at 300dpi so the computer doesn't have to work as hard to render it out or give me errors (Which is usual for AE and large images).

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            • #7
              Thanks to all , this has help me a stack.

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