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  • Editing Sony a7iii footage in Edius 6.5

    Yes. Still going strong with Edius 6.5
    Any recommendations on how best to edit 4K 30 footage recorded using an a7iii and Ninja v (prores 422)? I set my project setting to 1080p 29.97 (there doesn’t seem to be any 4K presets) but it seems that the video frame rate is not very smooth. Trying to be able to punch in on interviews.

    Ezra
    Edius 6.5, Storm Mobile, Intel i7-3820 3.60Ghz, 16 GB DD3 1600 memory, NVIDIA GeForce GTX670, Viewsonic VX2770Smh 27" Monitor. Prevail Elite SSD 120gb -SATA 6Gb/2, Win 7 Pro 64-bit

  • #2
    You don't need a 4k preset if you want to zoom in to interviews, do this in the HD project with the layouter

    6.5 allows for custom project size and you can set to 3840x2160 but then you do not want to zoom in too much

    can you inspect your Sony clip to see its default frame rate, is it really 30p or 29.97p

    Anton Strauss
    Antons Video Productions - Sydney

    EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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    • #3
      Hi Anton.

      The actual frame rate is listed as 29.97 on the Ninja and Edius says the clip properties is 29.97. The project settings Frame rate is set to 29.97 Field order: progressive, but for some reason any motion is not smooth. I was wondering if I have a project setting wrong setting…..or maybe it’s something I’m missing on my Ninja V.
      Edius 6.5, Storm Mobile, Intel i7-3820 3.60Ghz, 16 GB DD3 1600 memory, NVIDIA GeForce GTX670, Viewsonic VX2770Smh 27" Monitor. Prevail Elite SSD 120gb -SATA 6Gb/2, Win 7 Pro 64-bit

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      • #4
        maybe the PC is just stuttering during playback, what does the buffer show while playing?
        Anton Strauss
        Antons Video Productions - Sydney

        EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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        • #5
          You can check if the file plays normal on you ninja and then export a piece from EDIUS and play the exported file on your ninja. (Check supported file types of your Ninja).

          Most likely it just the preview on your editing computer.
          Steve

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          • #6
            Thank you ! I think Anton is correct. I checked my buffer during playback and it jumps between 1/32 and 2/32. thus the slightly stuttered playback When I rendered out a section of the timeline it looked ok. I will export some of the footage this evening and run a few more tests just to confirm. My project will primarily be longer form interviews, punching in and out, with some b-roll footage, so I can probably get through this editing with the slight stutter, or maybe i'll edit in Proxy mode. Do you think I'll have a frame rate problem if I use footage from a Sony NX5 60i on the 29.97p timeline? I think it may be time to make the upgrade from Edius 6.5 :-)
            Edius 6.5, Storm Mobile, Intel i7-3820 3.60Ghz, 16 GB DD3 1600 memory, NVIDIA GeForce GTX670, Viewsonic VX2770Smh 27" Monitor. Prevail Elite SSD 120gb -SATA 6Gb/2, Win 7 Pro 64-bit

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            • #7
              What is the Ninja set to for recording codec? Prores?

              I recommend upgrading, but the PC needs to be of recent age to work with EDIUS X, your Intel i7-3820 will not work with X

              other than that, EDIUS9 (full version) is still available for the moment and is a big improvement over 6.5
              Last edited by antonsvideo; 01-27-2023, 01:04 AM.
              Anton Strauss
              Antons Video Productions - Sydney

              EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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              • #8
                ProRes 422 from my Sony a7III. I would have loved to be able to convert the XAVC-S 4k format that the camera records internally to a Grass Valley HQ format, but I dont think this is possible. I was hoping that my system could handle the ProRes 422 codec smoother but it looks like I'll have to figure a way (maybe Proxy editing) to get through this upcoming project. I will be upgrading my computer and going for Edius X.
                Edius 6.5, Storm Mobile, Intel i7-3820 3.60Ghz, 16 GB DD3 1600 memory, NVIDIA GeForce GTX670, Viewsonic VX2770Smh 27" Monitor. Prevail Elite SSD 120gb -SATA 6Gb/2, Win 7 Pro 64-bit

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                • #9
                  ProRes 4:2:2 is very easy on EDIUS 9 or X, realtime all the way

                  You can right click any clip or clips in the bin and convert to HQ

                  btw, make sure the audio mixer does not have any tracks that are not in off mode or the buffer will be at 1/32 etc.
                  Anton Strauss
                  Antons Video Productions - Sydney

                  EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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                  • #10
                    Yes. Right clicking gives me the option to convert to "HQX Online Quality" and works great...creates a similar sized file. Which do you think is more efficient? converting the files? or Rendering them? I also checked my playback buffer and its set to 128mb. Would bumping this up to the max 512mb be advantageous?
                    Edius 6.5, Storm Mobile, Intel i7-3820 3.60Ghz, 16 GB DD3 1600 memory, NVIDIA GeForce GTX670, Viewsonic VX2770Smh 27" Monitor. Prevail Elite SSD 120gb -SATA 6Gb/2, Win 7 Pro 64-bit

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                    • #11
                      I would bump it up to 512MB

                      bin conversion retains the 4k resolution

                      rendering will give you a HD resolution since project is HD
                      Anton Strauss
                      Antons Video Productions - Sydney

                      EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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