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  • #16
    Yup... and the DVD spec does have a Pan&Scan feature, that nobody uses... Why? It was easier to re-cut the film in full-frame than to define all the movement vectors and such. It may no longer be the case, but that feature fell into "good idea, never really used" bucket.

    BTW: What it would've done, had it been used, was...
    16x9 Widescreen viewer sees the full widescreen movie
    4x3 Pan&Scan viewer sees a 4x3 'window' of the 16x9 frame (not a center cut, the actual changes viewed portion could change like in a 4x3 pan-and-scan VHS version).

    The advantage was that only a single instance of the movie was needed on the disc, hence saving from having two titles (one 16x9 and one 4x3) or having to do the flipper disc method.

    For better or for worse, encoding technology caught up and with dual-layer discs and good encoders, it was easier/faster/cheaper(?) to just put two copies of the movie on a disc - or simply sell them as separate versions like most studios do!

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    • #17
      Ok, I hear you, but this is the thing...

      When I play the 16:9 version, it fills up the widescreen nicely, but when I change the aspect to 4:3 on the remote, it tries to fill the whole screen, so it looks stretched from top to bottom.

      I take the 16:9 footage from Edius and convert to 4:3, and THAT"s when I get it in letterboxed for a normal TV.

      Maybe there's a setting I am missing? I use DVD Workshop 2 for my menus and burning. I do need new software for the menu making as I can't make 16:9 menus with that one.

      Thanks for all the help, keep it coming!
      Motion Art Cinematography

      Windows 10 Home 64 bit, Intel I7 4.2ghz, 32GB Ram, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1070

      Gold Coast, Australia

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Nerfboy View Post
        Ok, I hear you, but this is the thing...

        When I play the 16:9 version, it fills up the widescreen nicely, but when I change the aspect to 4:3 on the remote, it tries to fill the whole screen, so it looks stretched from top to bottom.

        I take the 16:9 footage from Edius and convert to 4:3, and THAT"s when I get it in letterboxed for a normal TV.

        Maybe there's a setting I am missing? I use DVD Workshop 2 for my menus and burning. I do need new software for the menu making as I can't make 16:9 menus with that one.

        Thanks for all the help, keep it coming!
        When you connect a DVD player to a 4:3 TV, you must go to DVD player setup menu and set aspect to "letterbox on 4:3"

        try DVD Lab Pro for authoring, it has 16:9 and 4:3 and makes it possible to force letterbox on 4:3
        http://www.videoproductions.com.au/d...properties.gif
        Anton Strauss
        Antons Video Productions - Sydney

        EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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        • #19
          Great, thanks.

          What's the newest version of DVD Lab? Never tried it before, but a friend uses it and loves it.
          Motion Art Cinematography

          Windows 10 Home 64 bit, Intel I7 4.2ghz, 32GB Ram, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1070

          Gold Coast, Australia

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Nerfboy View Post
            Great, thanks.

            What's the newest version of DVD Lab? Never tried it before, but a friend uses it and loves it.
            on their website, you can only get the newest version, be sure to buy the Pro version
            Anton Strauss
            Antons Video Productions - Sydney

            EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Nerfboy View Post
              I use DVD Workshop for my menus and burning. I do need new software for the menu making as I can't make 16:9 menus with that one.
              No you didn't miss out any settings, I also use DVD Workshop 2.2.3.2 and 16x9 video.
              There is no way to have a 16x9 menu on a 16x9 video, it looks that there were 2 software design teams working on it and the menu department did not get the 16x9 memo, most likely full mail box (LoL)

              Also DVD Workshop is considered a "dead" software, nice to use for simple menu's but unfortunately no development for several years now. Most likely the U-Lead users have decided to "kill" the way overpriced software by not buying it anymore, I have it, but would never buy it (now) again, or anything else from them again !

              U-Lead can make more $$ with their low end movie maker etc, so the pro costumers are left standing in the cold.

              As I never use very complex menu's I'll stick with DVD Workshop for a while, when needed I'll switch to DVDlab Pro, great software !
              Last edited by SoundFreak; 04-08-2008, 04:57 AM.

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              • #22
                As many will know as I was on the WS3 beta team when the plug was pulled....3 years ago and since then Ulead have had 2 new owners. You are correct 16x9 menus are a no no. There is a way of making 16x9 menus using the Advanced tab which is hidden but the overlays are inevitably out and using software to change the flags was not totally successful.
                Encore 2 gets my vote and with EDIUS and Procoder ( gotta get it in somewhere) works well .....

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                • #23
                  Well if it's true that I can get DVD Lab to force a widescreen DVD to letterbox on a 4:3 TV that would be great and save me a lot of headaches. I just got DVD Lab Pro 2...so now yet another program to learn.
                  Motion Art Cinematography

                  Windows 10 Home 64 bit, Intel I7 4.2ghz, 32GB Ram, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1070

                  Gold Coast, Australia

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by DigitalDave View Post
                    There is a way of making 16x9 menus using the Advanced tab which is hidden
                    Hi Dave, can you guide me to the hidden bits ?

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