21.9 ratio exporting to 4K 5120x2160 (MP4)

[Dave M]

Is it possible to do 21.9 ratio and exporting to 4K (MP4) 5120x2160 in Edius X?

[GrassValley_SL]

If you edit in a 5120x2160 project you can export it.

[BernH]

5120x2160 is larger than UHD. I believe you will need the WG version of Edius X to go larger than UHD

[Dave M]

I do have the workgroup version of Edius X, but it can not output a MP4 of this resolution. I can do a ProRes MOV or a Uncompressed AVI , but the client is looking for an MP4

[BernH]

Don't know if Edius is imposing some arbitrary restriction as I've never had to make one that large. When all else fails, use a different mp4 encoder. Run the ProRes through XMedia Recode or Handbrake. (both are ffmpeg based but I prefer Xmedia Recode as it has a lot more options exposed to be able to make just about any kind of file you need, whereas handbrake will only do mp4 or mkv)

[antonsvideo]

I do have the workgroup version of Edius X, but it can not output a MP4 of this resolution. I can do a ProRes MOV or a Uncompressed AVI , but the client is looking for an MP4

you can make a 5120x2160 mp4, but you need to choose H265, I tested and the resulting mp4 works perfect

[GrassValley_PS]

I can confirm Anton's findings that the H.265 works fine.

[GrassValley_SL]

I do have the workgroup version of Edius X, but it can not output a MP4 of this resolution. I can do a ProRes MOV or a Uncompressed AVI , but the client is looking for an MP4

IIRC the maximum resolutions supported by H264 is 2048x2048. This is the specification.
That's the reason you cannot export 5120x2160 to H264.

[BernH]

IIRC the maximum resolutions supported by H264 is 2048x2048. This is the specification.
That's the reason you cannot export 5120x2160 to H264.

Have a look at the H264 levels chart here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Video_Coding

8K is the limit listed in level 6.2. This is why I said I don't know if there is an arbitrary limit imposed by Edius

[Dave M]

Thanks everyone I will try H265 tomorrow.

[Dave M]

so I made a H265 MP4 file in Edius X, but it will not play on my PC in Edius X, VLC, QT player or Media Player?

[GrassValley_SL]

Have a look at the H264 levels chart here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Video_Coding

8K is the limit listed in level 6.2. This is why I said I don't know if there is an arbitrary limit imposed by Edius

Thanks. I will check with QA and get back to you on this.

[createmedia]

I have just set up a 5120 by 2160 25p project and for testing brought some UHD XAVCI footage in and added it to the timeline.

Added PCC as SLOG3 footage and used the layouter to expand to full screen width.

Confirmed the H264 exporter refused to work "Could not use the selected format. Please confirm setting"

H265 NVIDIA did it well. Edius cannot play it back on my system in real time as I don't have Intel Quick Sync on system 4, no reduction in resolution helped.

General
Complete name :	Y:\Test Projects\5120 by 2160 Test\Exports\Sequence1.mp4
Format :	MPEG-4
Format profile :	Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID :	mp42 (isom/iso2/mp41)
File size :	41.8 MiB
Duration :	13 s 312 ms
Overall bit rate :	26.3 Mb/s
Encoded date :	UTC 2022-02-01 18:32:15
Tagged date :	UTC 2022-02-01 18:32:15
creation_time :	2022-02-01T18:32:15+0000
title :	Sequence1.mp4
mpv_flags :	+strict_gop
timecode :	00:00:00:00
encoder :	Lavf58.20.100

Video
ID :	1
Format :	HEVC
Format/Info :	High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile :	Main [email protected]@Main
Codec ID :	hev1
Codec ID/Info :	High Efficiency Video Coding
Duration :	13 s 240 ms
Bit rate :	26.1 Mb/s
Width :	5 120 pixels
Height :	2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio :	2.40:1
Frame rate mode :	Constant
Frame rate :	25.000 FPS
Color space :	YUV
Chroma subsampling :	4:2:0
Bit depth :	10 bits
Scan type :	Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) :	0.094
Stream size :	41.2 MiB (99%)
Encoded date :	UTC 2022-02-01 18:32:15
Tagged date :	UTC 2022-02-01 18:32:15
Color range :	Limited
Color primaries :	BT.709
Transfer characteristics :	BT.709
Matrix coefficients :	BT.709
Codec configuration box :	hvcC

Daum Pot player on the Desktop played it perfectly in real time. VLC will only play the sound.


Pegasus TMPGEnc plugin made a good MP4 with it automatically selecting level 6. Edius was very laggy trying to play that back at half and was not happy at all. Again no Intel Quick Sync no reduction in resolution helped. Pot player happy, but VLC only plays the sound.

Complete name :	Y:\Test Projects\5120 by 2160 Test\Exports\Sequence1 TMPEG.mp4
Format :	MPEG-4
Format profile :	Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID :	mp42 (mp42/isom/avc1)
File size :	90.7 MiB
Duration :	13 s 240 ms
Overall bit rate mode :	Variable
Overall bit rate :	57.5 Mb/s
Encoded date :	UTC 2022-02-01 18:44:24
Tagged date :	UTC 2022-02-01 18:44:24
Writing application :	TMPGEnc Movie Plug-in AVC for EDIUS X Pro Version 1.3.0.1

Video
ID :	1
Format :	AVC
Format/Info :	Advanced Video Codec
Format profile :	High [email protected]
Format settings :	CABAC / 8 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC :	Yes
Format settings, Reference frames :	8 frames
Codec ID :	avc1
Codec ID/Info :	Advanced Video Coding
Duration :	13 s 240 ms
Bit rate mode :	Variable
Bit rate :	56.1 Mb/s
Maximum bit rate :	221 Mb/s
Width :	5 120 pixels
Height :	2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio :	2.40:1
Frame rate mode :	Constant
Frame rate :	25.000 FPS
Standard :	Component
Color space :	YUV
Chroma subsampling :	4:2:0
Bit depth :	10 bits
Scan type :	Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) :	0.203
Stream size :	90.5 MiB (100%)
Writing library :	x264 core 155
Encoding settings :	cabac=1 / ref=8 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=1 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=54 / lookahead_threads=9 / sliced_threads=0 / slices=1 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / minigop=0 / stitchable=1 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=abr / mbtree=1 / bitrate=55200 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=3 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=220800 / vbv_bufsize=220800 / nal_hrd=vbr / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Encoded date :	UTC 2022-02-01 18:44:24
Tagged date :	UTC 2022-02-01 18:44:24
Color range :	Limited
Color primaries :	BT.709
Transfer characteristics :	BT.709
Matrix coefficients :	BT.709
Codec configuration box :	avcC

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Regards

Mike

[Dave M]

Thanks everyone for all the testing and info. I did make a H265 MP4 file, but can not play back on my current PC Edius system (most likely graphics card and HD monitor do not support this rez) so I sent to client to test and waiting to hear back.

[antonsvideo]

Thanks everyone for all the testing and info. I did make a H265 MP4 file, but can not play back on my current PC Edius system (most likely graphics card and HD monitor do not support this rez) so I sent to client to test and waiting to hear back.

download and install Media Player Classic, it will play anything

https://github.com/clsid2/mpc-hc/releases