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    Is it possible to do 21.9 ratio and exporting to 4K (MP4) 5120x2160 in Edius X?

  • #2
    If you edit in a 5120x2160 project you can export it.
    Steve

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    • #3
      5120x2160 is larger than UHD. I believe you will need the WG version of Edius X to go larger than UHD
      Edius WG 9.55.7761, various 3rd party plugins, VisTitle 2.9.5.6, Win 7 Ultimate SP1, i7-4790K @ 4GHz with HD4600 GPU embedded, MSI Z97 Gaming 7 Motherboard, 32GB Kingston HyperX RAM, nVidia GTX680 4GB GPU, Matrox MX02 Mini MAX, Corsair 750W PSU, Corsair H110i GT Water Cooler, Corsair C70 case, 8TB Internal RAID 0/stripe (2x4TB Seagate SATAIII HDD's, Win7 Software stripe), 1TB Crucial MX500 SSD, Pioneer BDR-207D, Dual 1920x1080 monitors (one on GTX680 and one on Intel HD4600).

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      • #4
        I do have the workgroup version of Edius X, but it can not output a MP4 of this resolution. I can do a ProRes MOV or a Uncompressed AVI , but the client is looking for an MP4

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        • #5
          Don't know if Edius is imposing some arbitrary restriction as I've never had to make one that large. When all else fails, use a different mp4 encoder. Run the ProRes through XMedia Recode or Handbrake. (both are ffmpeg based but I prefer Xmedia Recode as it has a lot more options exposed to be able to make just about any kind of file you need, whereas handbrake will only do mp4 or mkv)
          Edius WG 9.55.7761, various 3rd party plugins, VisTitle 2.9.5.6, Win 7 Ultimate SP1, i7-4790K @ 4GHz with HD4600 GPU embedded, MSI Z97 Gaming 7 Motherboard, 32GB Kingston HyperX RAM, nVidia GTX680 4GB GPU, Matrox MX02 Mini MAX, Corsair 750W PSU, Corsair H110i GT Water Cooler, Corsair C70 case, 8TB Internal RAID 0/stripe (2x4TB Seagate SATAIII HDD's, Win7 Software stripe), 1TB Crucial MX500 SSD, Pioneer BDR-207D, Dual 1920x1080 monitors (one on GTX680 and one on Intel HD4600).

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Dave M View Post
            I do have the workgroup version of Edius X, but it can not output a MP4 of this resolution. I can do a ProRes MOV or a Uncompressed AVI , but the client is looking for an MP4
            you can make a 5120x2160 mp4, but you need to choose H265, I tested and the resulting mp4 works perfect
            Anton Strauss
            Antons Video Productions - Sydney

            EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro 21H2

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            • #7
              I can confirm Anton's findings that the H.265 works fine.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Dave M View Post
                I do have the workgroup version of Edius X, but it can not output a MP4 of this resolution. I can do a ProRes MOV or a Uncompressed AVI , but the client is looking for an MP4
                IIRC the maximum resolutions supported by H264 is 2048x2048. This is the specification.
                That's the reason you cannot export 5120x2160 to H264.
                Steve

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by GrassValley_SL View Post

                  IIRC the maximum resolutions supported by H264 is 2048x2048. This is the specification.
                  That's the reason you cannot export 5120x2160 to H264.
                  Have a look at the H264 levels chart here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Video_Coding

                  8K is the limit listed in level 6.2. This is why I said I don't know if there is an arbitrary limit imposed by Edius
                  Edius WG 9.55.7761, various 3rd party plugins, VisTitle 2.9.5.6, Win 7 Ultimate SP1, i7-4790K @ 4GHz with HD4600 GPU embedded, MSI Z97 Gaming 7 Motherboard, 32GB Kingston HyperX RAM, nVidia GTX680 4GB GPU, Matrox MX02 Mini MAX, Corsair 750W PSU, Corsair H110i GT Water Cooler, Corsair C70 case, 8TB Internal RAID 0/stripe (2x4TB Seagate SATAIII HDD's, Win7 Software stripe), 1TB Crucial MX500 SSD, Pioneer BDR-207D, Dual 1920x1080 monitors (one on GTX680 and one on Intel HD4600).

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                  • #10
                    Thanks everyone I will try H265 tomorrow.

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                    • #11
                      so I made a H265 MP4 file in Edius X, but it will not play on my PC in Edius X, VLC, QT player or Media Player?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by BernH View Post

                        Have a look at the H264 levels chart here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Video_Coding

                        8K is the limit listed in level 6.2. This is why I said I don't know if there is an arbitrary limit imposed by Edius
                        Thanks. I will check with QA and get back to you on this.
                        Steve

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                        • #13
                          I have just set up a 5120 by 2160 25p project and for testing brought some UHD XAVCI footage in and added it to the timeline.

                          Added PCC as SLOG3 footage and used the layouter to expand to full screen width.

                          Confirmed the H264 exporter refused to work "Could not use the selected format. Please confirm setting"

                          H265 NVIDIA did it well. Edius cannot play it back on my system in real time as I don't have Intel Quick Sync on system 4, no reduction in resolution helped.
                          General
                          Complete name : Y:\Test Projects\5120 by 2160 Test\Exports\Sequence1.mp4
                          Format : MPEG-4
                          Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
                          Codec ID : mp42 (isom/iso2/mp41)
                          File size : 41.8 MiB
                          Duration : 13 s 312 ms
                          Overall bit rate : 26.3 Mb/s
                          Encoded date : UTC 2022-02-01 18:32:15
                          Tagged date : UTC 2022-02-01 18:32:15
                          creation_time : 2022-02-01T18:32:15+0000
                          title : Sequence1.mp4
                          mpv_flags : +strict_gop
                          timecode : 00:00:00:00
                          encoder : Lavf58.20.100
                          Video
                          ID : 1
                          Format : HEVC
                          Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
                          Format profile : Main [email protected]@Main
                          Codec ID : hev1
                          Codec ID/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
                          Duration : 13 s 240 ms
                          Bit rate : 26.1 Mb/s
                          Width : 5 120 pixels
                          Height : 2 160 pixels
                          Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1
                          Frame rate mode : Constant
                          Frame rate : 25.000 FPS
                          Color space : YUV
                          Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
                          Bit depth : 10 bits
                          Scan type : Progressive
                          Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.094
                          Stream size : 41.2 MiB (99%)
                          Encoded date : UTC 2022-02-01 18:32:15
                          Tagged date : UTC 2022-02-01 18:32:15
                          Color range : Limited
                          Color primaries : BT.709
                          Transfer characteristics : BT.709
                          Matrix coefficients : BT.709
                          Codec configuration box : hvcC
                          Daum Pot player on the Desktop played it perfectly in real time. VLC will only play the sound.


                          Pegasus TMPGEnc plugin made a good MP4 with it automatically selecting level 6. Edius was very laggy trying to play that back at half and was not happy at all. Again no Intel Quick Sync no reduction in resolution helped. Pot player happy, but VLC only plays the sound.
                          Complete name : Y:\Test Projects\5120 by 2160 Test\Exports\Sequence1 TMPEG.mp4
                          Format : MPEG-4
                          Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
                          Codec ID : mp42 (mp42/isom/avc1)
                          File size : 90.7 MiB
                          Duration : 13 s 240 ms
                          Overall bit rate mode : Variable
                          Overall bit rate : 57.5 Mb/s
                          Encoded date : UTC 2022-02-01 18:44:24
                          Tagged date : UTC 2022-02-01 18:44:24
                          Writing application : TMPGEnc Movie Plug-in AVC for EDIUS X Pro Version 1.3.0.1
                          Video
                          ID : 1
                          Format : AVC
                          Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
                          Format profile : High [email protected]
                          Format settings : CABAC / 8 Ref Frames
                          Format settings, CABAC : Yes
                          Format settings, Reference frames : 8 frames
                          Codec ID : avc1
                          Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
                          Duration : 13 s 240 ms
                          Bit rate mode : Variable
                          Bit rate : 56.1 Mb/s
                          Maximum bit rate : 221 Mb/s
                          Width : 5 120 pixels
                          Height : 2 160 pixels
                          Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1
                          Frame rate mode : Constant
                          Frame rate : 25.000 FPS
                          Standard : Component
                          Color space : YUV
                          Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
                          Bit depth : 10 bits
                          Scan type : Progressive
                          Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.203
                          Stream size : 90.5 MiB (100%)
                          Writing library : x264 core 155
                          Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=8 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=1 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=54 / lookahead_threads=9 / sliced_threads=0 / slices=1 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / minigop=0 / stitchable=1 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=abr / mbtree=1 / bitrate=55200 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=3 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=220800 / vbv_bufsize=220800 / nal_hrd=vbr / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
                          Encoded date : UTC 2022-02-01 18:44:24
                          Tagged date : UTC 2022-02-01 18:44:24
                          Color range : Limited
                          Color primaries : BT.709
                          Transfer characteristics : BT.709
                          Matrix coefficients : BT.709
                          Codec configuration box : avcC

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                          • #14
                            Thanks everyone for all the testing and info. I did make a H265 MP4 file, but can not play back on my current PC Edius system (most likely graphics card and HD monitor do not support this rez) so I sent to client to test and waiting to hear back.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Dave M View Post
                              Thanks everyone for all the testing and info. I did make a H265 MP4 file, but can not play back on my current PC Edius system (most likely graphics card and HD monitor do not support this rez) so I sent to client to test and waiting to hear back.
                              download and install Media Player Classic, it will play anything
                              https://github.com/clsid2/mpc-hc/releases
                              Anton Strauss
                              Antons Video Productions - Sydney

                              EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro 21H2

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