Canon XF705 & Edius X (HEVC playback)

[Hutch TV]

A year ago I created a thread named Canon XF705 & Edius 9 which discussed the fact Edius 9 could not deal with playback in the timeline Canon XF705 4K 10 bit HEVC files

A year later I've updated my PC to an i9 with 32 gig ram and a Geforce RTX 2070 Super and playback is still not in realtime.

I'm sure I have Quick Sync enabled? Where do I check this?

Thanks

[BernH]

You enable the decoder in the Edius Settings > System Settings > Importer/Exporter > HEVC. Enable the check mark on use hardware decoder.

That said, there is no information posted about your system.

What i9 processor do you have?
Does it have an intel GPU core in it? (the intel GPU is the quick sync engine)
Do you have a monitor hooked up to the onboard intel GPU (you need to do this to enable the GPU core to function correctly)
Is the intel GPU enabled in your BIOS?
Is the intel GPU primary or secondary? (you may need to swap roles)
Have you loaded the intel GPU driver that came with your motherboard? (don't us the windows built in generic driver, and don't use the newest one available online, they often don't work. It's best to stick to the one that came with your motherboard)

If all of that is in place, the quicksync decoder/encoder should work.

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I have a second-hand R9 5950x gtx1050 and a second-hand i9 9960x vega64 computer. When decoding h265(4K 10bit 420 100Mbps From Dji Mavic2 Pro), the normal playback of 9960x is not smooth, and the playback speed of 5950x is not smooth after it is adjusted to 140%，Although these two computers were not purchased for EDIUS, I didn't expect that the performance of h265 was so bad.but there is a very good news that EDIUS will launch version 10.20 to support more graphics acceleration，Official reply on YouTube.If yes, EDIUS should be the best editing software for windows.

[Jerry]

Neither one of those systems have QS. It is common knowledge that Z series systems are best for avc encoded files.

[createmedia]

The i9-1234X series are faster than the 19-1234K series but do not contain the Intel UHD 630 embedded Graphics module and therefore there will be no Quick Sync available.

For interest this video explains how you would go about it with the correct CPU.

https://youtu.be/qJ3H8QRHbIU

The processor you have is an LGA2066 socket whereas the K series use the LGA1200 socket, so to get Intel Quicksync would need a new motherboard preferably a Z590 chipset which gives more usable PCIe slots than the Z490 chipset which has poor provision for PCIe 8 and 4 lane expansion slots, but the Z590 chipset boards are more expensive, and it depends whether you want to plug in any other cards or not, such as Black Magic Design or AJA.

If you are using it with Edius X just be patient and wait until future developments are announced with GPU encoding and decoding but that has to be with an NVidia GPU not an AMD one to get all the features.

Regards

Mike

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It is said that AMD rx6000 Series graphics card has better decoding performance than NVIDIA, and the coding performance may be a little poor. But it's good for consumers to support more graphics cards，It's said that GV company is very powerful and monopolizes many TV stations. It should have the strength to do this.

[Hutch TV]

You enable the decoder in the Edius Settings > System Settings > Importer/Exporter > HEVC. Enable the check mark on use hardware decoder.

That said, there is no information posted about your system.

What i9 processor do you have?
Does it have an intel GPU core in it? (the intel GPU is the quick sync engine)
Do you have a monitor hooked up to the onboard intel GPU (you need to do this to enable the GPU core to function correctly)
Is the intel GPU enabled in your BIOS?
Is the intel GPU primary or secondary? (you may need to swap roles)
Have you loaded the intel GPU driver that came with your motherboard? (don't us the windows built in generic driver, and don't use the newest one available online, they often don't work. It's best to stick to the one that came with your motherboard)

If all of that is in place, the quicksync decoder/encoder should work.

HERE ARE THE SPECS
INtel Core i9 9900K 8 Core LGA 1151 3.6GHz CPU Processor

Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master ATX LGA1151 Motherboard

Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 Super Gaming 3x 8G OC Graphics Card

Corsair Carbide Series 100R Mid Tower Case

Corsair RM650 Gold 650W Power Supply

Samsung 860 EVO M.2 SATA SSD 500GB

Samsung 860 EVO M.2 SATA SSD 1TB

Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2x16GB) 3200MHz CL16 DDR4

Corsair Hydro Series H100x 240mm Liquid CPU Cooler

Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64bit OEM DVD

[BernH]

HERE ARE THE SPECS
INtel Core i9 9900K 8 Core LGA 1151 3.6GHz CPU Processor

Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master ATX LGA1151 Motherboard

Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 Super Gaming 3x 8G OC Graphics Card

Corsair Carbide Series 100R Mid Tower Case

Corsair RM650 Gold 650W Power Supply

Samsung 860 EVO M.2 SATA SSD 500GB

Samsung 860 EVO M.2 SATA SSD 1TB

Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2x16GB) 3200MHz CL16 DDR4

Corsair Hydro Series H100x 240mm Liquid CPU Cooler

Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64bit OEM DVD

Ok, That does have an intel UHD630 in there, so if the rest is in place your quicksync should work.

[Jerry]

Even with Quick Sync, the Canon 705 HEVC files are troublesome for Edius.

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Yes, QSV supports very limited formats, including the 11th generation core graphics card, NVIDIA amd GPU, and I haven't seen one that can hard decode 4:2:2 and sample

[GrassValley_PS]

IAlthough these two computers were not purchased for EDIUS, I didn't expect that the performance of h265 was so bad.but there is a very good news that EDIUS will launch version 10.20 to support more graphics acceleration，Official reply on YouTube.If yes, EDIUS should be the best editing software for windows.

If you are thinking that 10.20 is going to give full GPU decoding, you are mistaken.

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Oh, no, what functions will be updated in version 10.20？

[Liverpool TV]

A year ago I created a thread named Canon XF705 & Edius 9 which discussed the fact Edius 9 could not deal with playback in the timeline Canon XF705 4K 10 bit HEVC files

A year later I've updated my PC to an i9 with 32 gig ram and a Geforce RTX 2070 Super and playback is still not in realtime.

I'm sure I have Quick Sync enabled? Where do I check this?

Thanks

Hi Martin.

Do you have a camera file available to download? I can test it with the new Intel Xe graphics engine which has a new version of the QS processor.

Cheers,
Dave.

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Hello, the 11th generation core graphics card doesn't support. When I went to the computer store to buy a computer again, I tested it with their i7 1165g7, which doesn't support 10bit 4K 4:2:2 hevc. I didn't buy it again. The test computer was the trial version of ediusx 10.10.7056 working group

[Jerry]

Here is what I saw on Gen 11 QS support:
Version 8 (Tiger Lake, Rocket Lake)The Tiger Lake (microprocessor) & Rocket Lake adds VP9 12-bit & 12-bit 4:4:4 hardware decoding and HEVC 12-bit 4:2:0, 4:2:2 and 4:4:4 hardware decoding. Gen12 Xe will also support native AV1 decode, which includes 10-bit 4:2:0 16K stills and 10-bit 4:2:0 8K, 4K and 2K video. Hardware encoding for VP8 was dropped and hardware decoding is only available on Tiger Lake.

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Iris Xe should still be a semi-finished product at present,I've always been confused about this. Before I went to the computer store, I saw that the parameters of the unofficial website support hevc 4K 4:2:2, but the official website of Intel didn't find the details. When I Use Ediusx played back the （h265 4:2:2 ） flock of sheep video , the core graphics card did not have hardware decoding. I've also tested potplayer, and it's still the same.Maybe the Intel Xe DG2 graphics card will let EDIUSX support decoding.

[Jerry]

There is a good possibility that QS was not configured properly. That is the most reported 'gotcha' here on the forum.

[Hutch TV]

There is a good possibility that QS was not configured properly. That is the most reported 'gotcha' here on the forum.

Hi Jerry, I will look right into this today, are you saying your PC and Edius has no problems playing back H265 4K 1080 50p 422? There's lots of people turning to Resolve and I really don't want to be another. Chat on the Canon XF705 user group attached

[createmedia]

An XF705 short clip uploaded here would be useful

What i9 CPU is it as a matter of interest?

Canon have now made lower frame rates available with a firmware update for H264 but no 50/60p yet. Premiere Pro and Da Vinci Resolve still have problems in HEVC 4K 60p with playback. It seems a little short sighted of Canon to release a camcorder with a recording format that most editing software struggles to playback without an alternative.

GV are usally fairly quick off the mark including new camcorder codecs into Edius, although HEVC isn't really a new camcorder codec, it is a generic codec.

Hardware acceleration should be the way that Quick Sync shows up in the Edius Exporter.

Mike

[Jerry]

No. My system doesn't have QS with HEVC decode. In an earlier post, I did say that even systems with HEVC decode had problems playing the file.
Have you tried converting the file in the bin to HQX? I believe my system could play the file after conversion.

Can you post a short sample for testing. There are those that have the 10850-900k that might be able to push it. Also, the 11900k is releasing soon.