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  • Titler Pro 7 Ultimate

    When using Titler Pro 7 Ultimate which I upgraded from Titler Pro 4, I cannot get any real time playback in Edius X. The Titler Pro 7 that comes with Edius X works real time, I contacted Newblue, but still waiting for a reply a few days now. Vistitle works in real time always, but the company does not make new templates like Newblue does.
    Win10 Pro64, EDIUS 9, Intel i7 8700K @4.9GHz/ OC,Asus ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING Motherboard, Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 4 x 8GB DDR4-2666 PC4-21300 ,Hard Drives all SSD M2 type 1 Samsung 960 EVO 250 GB, 1 Samsung 960 EVO 500GB, 1 Samsung 850 EVO 500GB, 1 WD 256GB, G-Drive USB SCSI Storage external drive 5TB for File storage, Nvidia GeForce GTX 980, Sony PMW-EX1R, Sony PXW-Z150.Vistitle, Newblue Titler Pro 4 & 5, Neat Video, Proshow Producer 9, TMPGEnc Movie Plug-in AVC for EDIUS.

  • #2
    Don't assume different titlers from different companies will operate the same. EDIUS designed Quicktitler so if makes sense that it should operate perfectly in realtime. Vistitle was designed for EDIUS by a third party, so it also works well. The rest of the titles were not designed for EDIUS so their realtime performance will vary depending on the Titles and your computer.
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    • #3
      Grassvalley should encourage the Vistitle company to make templates similar like Newblue, there has not been anything new from Vistitle in years. The Titler Pro before would render itself before going to the timeline in versions before, I don't know what is going on. Now Newblue has made a special real time version 7 for Edius X.
      Win10 Pro64, EDIUS 9, Intel i7 8700K @4.9GHz/ OC,Asus ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING Motherboard, Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 4 x 8GB DDR4-2666 PC4-21300 ,Hard Drives all SSD M2 type 1 Samsung 960 EVO 250 GB, 1 Samsung 960 EVO 500GB, 1 Samsung 850 EVO 500GB, 1 WD 256GB, G-Drive USB SCSI Storage external drive 5TB for File storage, Nvidia GeForce GTX 980, Sony PMW-EX1R, Sony PXW-Z150.Vistitle, Newblue Titler Pro 4 & 5, Neat Video, Proshow Producer 9, TMPGEnc Movie Plug-in AVC for EDIUS.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by oswaldbobb View Post
        Grassvalley should encourage the Vistitle company to make templates similar like Newblue, there has not been anything new from Vistitle in years. The Titler Pro before would render itself before going to the timeline in versions before, I don't know what is going on. Now Newblue has made a special real time version 7 for Edius X.
        Let me put it this way. I would rather have a completely new version of Vistitle with new features and a new 'engine' to allow these new features, than them just creating templates.
        What is stopping you from making the templates yourself. If you rely on NB or Videostar to create your templates, you are going to be beholding to those companies to provide you with templates.

        All I can say is, if you like Vistitle, you should learn how to actually use Vistitle, not just use it to change things in a template.

        I posted 5 free Vistitle templates, that I made, in this thread: https://forum.grassvalley.com/forum/...itle-templates

        These 5 templates took me very little time to create.
        Jerry
        Six Gill DV
        www.sgdvtutorials.com
        If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

        Vistitle YouTube Channel
        https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVlxC8Am4qFbkXJRoPAnMQ/videos

        Windows 10 Pro up to v.1803 Tweaks for Edius Users
        http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


        Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, Corsair H110, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, HD Spark, Intensity Shuttle, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Benq 27 and Hanns-G 28 monitors, CC 2019, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
        Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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        • #5
          Did you buy Ultimate as an upgrade from your included Titler Pro 7 EDIUS X license? There is a special upgrade price for EDIUS X users . Maybe, although unlikely, the special upgrade to Ultimate is a different version and will work better?

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          • #6
            I was always ask to upgrade by Newblue emails from Titler Pro 4, which I bought years ago. That upgrade is what I used to upgrade to Ultimate, Ultimate has more templates. In other Edius programs before a render would happen before the title goes on the timeline, so it played back real time like Vistitle, but that is no more.
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            Win10 Pro64, EDIUS 9, Intel i7 8700K @4.9GHz/ OC,Asus ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING Motherboard, Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 4 x 8GB DDR4-2666 PC4-21300 ,Hard Drives all SSD M2 type 1 Samsung 960 EVO 250 GB, 1 Samsung 960 EVO 500GB, 1 Samsung 850 EVO 500GB, 1 WD 256GB, G-Drive USB SCSI Storage external drive 5TB for File storage, Nvidia GeForce GTX 980, Sony PMW-EX1R, Sony PXW-Z150.Vistitle, Newblue Titler Pro 4 & 5, Neat Video, Proshow Producer 9, TMPGEnc Movie Plug-in AVC for EDIUS.

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            • #7
              for some reason, when adding complex titles to timeline, NB spends forever on showing a preparing title message as if it is rendering it, but it only makes a cache and it may not play in realtime once it finally finishes

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              Anton Strauss
              Antons Video Productions - Sydney

              EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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              • #8
                That happens to me also, Newblue Tech support got back to me today and sent me instructions to remove the software and install a beta version 201016 it still does not work real time plus the cache message.
                Win10 Pro64, EDIUS 9, Intel i7 8700K @4.9GHz/ OC,Asus ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING Motherboard, Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 4 x 8GB DDR4-2666 PC4-21300 ,Hard Drives all SSD M2 type 1 Samsung 960 EVO 250 GB, 1 Samsung 960 EVO 500GB, 1 Samsung 850 EVO 500GB, 1 WD 256GB, G-Drive USB SCSI Storage external drive 5TB for File storage, Nvidia GeForce GTX 980, Sony PMW-EX1R, Sony PXW-Z150.Vistitle, Newblue Titler Pro 4 & 5, Neat Video, Proshow Producer 9, TMPGEnc Movie Plug-in AVC for EDIUS.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by antonsvideo View Post
                  for some reason, when adding complex titles to timeline, NB spends forever on showing a preparing title message as if it is rendering it, but it only makes a cache and it may not play in realtime once it finally finishes

                  Anton-00911.png
                  Anton, that particular template uses a lot of resources. Your screen shot shows you are on the Edius timeline. Was the title fully rendered within the TP7 interface before you returned to Edius?
                  Both you and Oswald have far more powerful systems than I have. The only difference I have is 11GB of VRAM on my 1080ti.
                  The more complicated the title, the more VRAM is required.

                  Watch the video. This is the same process I have done since NB moved to the green circle render indicator.
                  I will say that the TP7 for Edius X version works far better than the TP7 Ultimate Edition in 9.52 ever did, at least as far as getting
                  real time playback.

                  Also, Camtasia 2018 was running and using system resources during the recording of the video. Project was 1920x1080 29.97p 10bit.
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                  Last edited by Jerry; 10-17-2020, 05:52 PM.
                  Jerry
                  Six Gill DV
                  www.sgdvtutorials.com
                  If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

                  Vistitle YouTube Channel
                  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVlxC8Am4qFbkXJRoPAnMQ/videos

                  Windows 10 Pro up to v.1803 Tweaks for Edius Users
                  http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


                  Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, Corsair H110, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, HD Spark, Intensity Shuttle, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Benq 27 and Hanns-G 28 monitors, CC 2019, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
                  Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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                  • #10
                    I've played with that template and if you let it fully render on the timeline so that message goes away it may not playback in real time and if you render it using Edius it may not even render and even if it indicates that it rendered it still may not playback in real time and if you exit Edius and then re-open the project the render may be gone. There are still some serious issues here that need to be addressed.
                    My System: Edius Workgroup 9.51 & 10.0, Intel I9-9900K 3.60GHz Liquid Cooling, MSI Z390-A PRO MB, 32-GB Mem, GeForce GTX 1660 6GB GPU, BM Intensity Pro 4K Card, Win 10 Pro

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by LewS View Post
                      I've played with that template and if you let it fully render on the timeline so that message goes away it may not playback in real time and if you render it using Edius it may not even render and even if it indicates that it rendered it still may not playback in real time and if you exit Edius and then re-open the project the render may be gone. There are still some serious issues here that need to be addressed.
                      I can confirm this

                      and because the render keeps breaking, what we really need back urgently is Shift+Q render and add to timeline
                      Last edited by antonsvideo; 10-18-2020, 12:53 AM.
                      Anton Strauss
                      Antons Video Productions - Sydney

                      EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Jerry View Post

                        Anton, that particular template uses a lot of resources. Your screen shot shows you are on the Edius timeline. Was the title fully rendered within the TP7 interface before you returned to Edius?
                        Both you and Oswald have far more powerful systems than I have. The only difference I have is 11GB of VRAM on my 1080ti.
                        The more complicated the title, the more VRAM is required.

                        Watch the video. This is the same process I have done since NB moved to the green circle render indicator.
                        I will say that the TP7 for Edius X version works far better than the TP7 Ultimate Edition in 9.52 ever did, at least as far as getting
                        real time playback.

                        Also, Camtasia 2018 was running and using system resources during the recording of the video. Project was 1920x1080 29.97p 10bit.
                        Hi Jerry

                        I was testing this on my Office PC which may not be as powerful as yours :)

                        No, I did not wait for it to render in NB
                        Anton Strauss
                        Antons Video Productions - Sydney

                        EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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                        • #13
                          If the file is rendered within the TP7 interface and your system is capable of playing the title in real time at the resolution and frame rate chosen, then it should retain real time functionality after reboot.

                          I can do 1080 29.97p 10bit all day long.
                          When I up the frame rate to 59.94p, a render is required. With the state of rendering on .nbtitles the way it is, I can't get real time playback without doing an export.
                          Jerry
                          Six Gill DV
                          www.sgdvtutorials.com
                          If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

                          Vistitle YouTube Channel
                          https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVlxC8Am4qFbkXJRoPAnMQ/videos

                          Windows 10 Pro up to v.1803 Tweaks for Edius Users
                          http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


                          Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, Corsair H110, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, HD Spark, Intensity Shuttle, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Benq 27 and Hanns-G 28 monitors, CC 2019, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
                          Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Jerry View Post
                            I can't get real time playback without doing an export.
                            and that is why we need Shift+Q

                            Anton Strauss
                            Antons Video Productions - Sydney

                            EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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                            • #15
                              The render should work the same as it does on Vistitle files. The header turns green and the actual title gets a green header.
                              Jerry
                              Six Gill DV
                              www.sgdvtutorials.com
                              If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

                              Vistitle YouTube Channel
                              https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVlxC8Am4qFbkXJRoPAnMQ/videos

                              Windows 10 Pro up to v.1803 Tweaks for Edius Users
                              http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


                              Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, Corsair H110, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, HD Spark, Intensity Shuttle, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Benq 27 and Hanns-G 28 monitors, CC 2019, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
                              Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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