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    UPDATE AND MORE INFO ABOUT THIS PROBLEM

    Here's something very strange Anton.

    My machine is multi-bootable, Edius X and 9 on one partition with a bunch of other stuff and then a second win10 install on the same NVMe boot drive with just Edius X and OBS and nothing else. MAC OS, Android, ChromOS, Linux and Openelec on a different multi-boot SSD. Not that the second SSD with the other OSs would cause any issues as they're just dumb data as far as an active Windows boot on the other drive is concernd but I pulled that drive anyway.

    The issues I've shown is when runing the Win10 partition with Edius X and 9 and other stuff on it.

    When I open and export the project on the other Win10 environment with just Edius X and OBS on it, the project exports properly.

    This may initially sound like some kind of corruption wih the project but a couple of things would say that's not the case. I have a number of projects doing the same thing and that's only out of the ones I've tested. The reason why I've only noticed the issue on a few projects so far is because I've not finished the others and wont know until I export my masters. It is also very unlikely that multiple projects would be corrupted.

    The second reason why I doubt it's corruption is becuase a different install of the same version of Edius X had seen the project differently.

    One other thing is that I do know for sure that this particular project was started on 9 and finished on X but I'm not saying that this is the cause of the problem.

    One thing is for sure though, the problem is definitely there as the video is showing, it's also happening on other projects and maybe more that I've not tested and this is definitely going to be a big problem when I come to finish other projects.

    I've never see this problem before on any other version of Edius.

    I'll do a proper full video walking through of the problem and explaining it in a couple of days. I'll put that one live on YouTube in case anyone, maybe GV, comes across it and can give some advice.

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    I'm having issues with Edius X not exporting layouter reframing settings.

    I make some edits where I'm using layouter to re-frame some clips. These all playback fine when running through the edit but when I come to export the final edit the output file doesn't have the reframings that were done with layouter. Where the clips should show reframings, as they did when playing the edit, they simply revert back to the full frame on the export. This happens when exporting video, so far I've used NVENC, and it also happens when exporting stills, so far I've seen this on JPG files that I use as poster frames.

    Has anyone else noticed this?

    Here's a quick video showing the problem. I actually used layouter on this video to do close ups of various things going on but the output didn't have the layouter settings in it, you may need to click on the youtube link and watch it on youtube in full screen in 4K if you can't go full screen with the embedded version below.

    https://youtu.be/nvsvasgO47k

    Last edited by Liverpool TV; 10-14-2020, 02:47 PM.

    "There's only one thing more powerful than knowledge. The free sharing of it"


    If you don't know the difference between Azimuth and Asimov, then either your tapes sound bad and your Robot is very dangerous. Kill all humans...... Or your tape deck won't harm a human, and your Robot's tracking and stereo imagining is spot on.

    Is your Robot three laws safe?

  • #2
    Works fine here. Could you list project details.
    My System: Edius Workgroup 9.51 & 10.0, Intel I9-9900K 3.60GHz Liquid Cooling, MSI Z390-A PRO MB, 32-GB Mem, GeForce GTX 1660 6GB GPU, BM Intensity Pro 4K Card, Win 10 Pro

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    • #3
      Originally posted by LewS View Post
      Works fine here. Could you list project details.
      I'm in UHD 25FPS. Tried changing to 1080 but the same thing happened.

      "There's only one thing more powerful than knowledge. The free sharing of it"


      If you don't know the difference between Azimuth and Asimov, then either your tapes sound bad and your Robot is very dangerous. Kill all humans...... Or your tape deck won't harm a human, and your Robot's tracking and stereo imagining is spot on.

      Is your Robot three laws safe?

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      • #4
        Here are my project settings:

        Frame Size : 1920 x 1080
        Frame Rate : 29.97
        Aspect Ratio : 1.0000
        Field order : Progressive
        Video Channels : YCbCr + Alpha
        Bit Depth : 8Bit
        Color Space : BT.709

        I tried the layouter on video and jpeg stills doing both 2D and 3D moves and it worked fine with an h265/hevc (NVIDIA) export. Also changed the project to 10-bit and that worked fine also. Also tried an h264/AVC export which worked fine.
        Last edited by LewS; 10-14-2020, 01:25 AM.
        My System: Edius Workgroup 9.51 & 10.0, Intel I9-9900K 3.60GHz Liquid Cooling, MSI Z390-A PRO MB, 32-GB Mem, GeForce GTX 1660 6GB GPU, BM Intensity Pro 4K Card, Win 10 Pro

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        • #5
          Originally posted by LewS View Post
          Here are my project settings:

          Frame Size : 1920 x 1080
          Frame Rate : 29.97
          Aspect Ratio : 1.0000
          Field order : Progressive
          Video Channels : YCbCr + Alpha
          Bit Depth : 8Bit
          Color Space : BT.709

          I tried the layouter on video and jpeg stills doing both 2D and 3D moves and it worked fine with an h265/hevc export. Also changed the project to 10-bit and that worked fine also.
          Thanks. My settings are basically the same except for PAL and 10 bit. I'll post a quick video shortly showing the problem.

          "There's only one thing more powerful than knowledge. The free sharing of it"


          If you don't know the difference between Azimuth and Asimov, then either your tapes sound bad and your Robot is very dangerous. Kill all humans...... Or your tape deck won't harm a human, and your Robot's tracking and stereo imagining is spot on.

          Is your Robot three laws safe?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by LewS View Post
            Here are my project settings:

            Frame Size : 1920 x 1080
            Frame Rate : 29.97
            Aspect Ratio : 1.0000
            Field order : Progressive
            Video Channels : YCbCr + Alpha
            Bit Depth : 8Bit
            Color Space : BT.709

            I tried the layouter on video and jpeg stills doing both 2D and 3D moves and it worked fine with an h265/hevc (NVIDIA) export. Also changed the project to 10-bit and that worked fine also. Also tried an h264/AVC export which worked fine.
            Hi Lew. I've just posted a video showing the problem. You may need to view on YouTube and go full screen 4K to read and see things properly, I did do reframing to show the settings etc. but the export didn't have the reframing.

            "There's only one thing more powerful than knowledge. The free sharing of it"


            If you don't know the difference between Azimuth and Asimov, then either your tapes sound bad and your Robot is very dangerous. Kill all humans...... Or your tape deck won't harm a human, and your Robot's tracking and stereo imagining is spot on.

            Is your Robot three laws safe?

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            • #7
              is the title above the clip a quicktitle, vistitle or nb title?
              Anton Strauss
              Antons Video Productions - Sydney

              EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro 21H2

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              • #8
                Originally posted by antonsvideo View Post
                is the title above the clip a quicktitle, vistitle or nb title?
                It's a quicktitle, although that doesn't seem to make any difference. This example video had a few reframes in it as well, zoomed into the project settings at the beginning, but they didn't show on the export and there were no titles.

                "There's only one thing more powerful than knowledge. The free sharing of it"


                If you don't know the difference between Azimuth and Asimov, then either your tapes sound bad and your Robot is very dangerous. Kill all humans...... Or your tape deck won't harm a human, and your Robot's tracking and stereo imagining is spot on.

                Is your Robot three laws safe?

                Comment


                • #9
                  Just tried opening the project in 9 and 9 wouldn't even recognise the layouter settings that were set in 10.

                  "There's only one thing more powerful than knowledge. The free sharing of it"


                  If you don't know the difference between Azimuth and Asimov, then either your tapes sound bad and your Robot is very dangerous. Kill all humans...... Or your tape deck won't harm a human, and your Robot's tracking and stereo imagining is spot on.

                  Is your Robot three laws safe?

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    I duplicated exactly what you did in your video and it worked fine.

                    Could you start a new project and try again? Maybe the project is corrupted. I have opened projects created in EX in E9 and vice versa and all the effects work between them.
                    Last edited by LewS; 10-14-2020, 03:59 AM.
                    My System: Edius Workgroup 9.51 & 10.0, Intel I9-9900K 3.60GHz Liquid Cooling, MSI Z390-A PRO MB, 32-GB Mem, GeForce GTX 1660 6GB GPU, BM Intensity Pro 4K Card, Win 10 Pro

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                    • #11
                      I have also tested all possible ways and no issue

                      there must be something unique to your project

                      could I see a screenshot of all settings within the layouter and also project settings with everything visible
                      Anton Strauss
                      Antons Video Productions - Sydney

                      EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro 21H2

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by LewS View Post
                        I duplicated exactly what you did in your video and it worked fine.

                        Could you start a new project and try again? Maybe the project is corrupted. I have opened projects created in EX in E9 and vice versa and all the effects work between them.
                        I thought the same but it is happening on a bunch of projects not just the one. Out of interest, if you get time can you try it again but replicate it in a project you already have that’s got a fair bit of editing already in it but try the example further down the timeline maybe about an hour in.

                        "There's only one thing more powerful than knowledge. The free sharing of it"


                        If you don't know the difference between Azimuth and Asimov, then either your tapes sound bad and your Robot is very dangerous. Kill all humans...... Or your tape deck won't harm a human, and your Robot's tracking and stereo imagining is spot on.

                        Is your Robot three laws safe?

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by antonsvideo View Post
                          I have also tested all possible ways and no issue

                          there must be something unique to your project

                          could I see a screenshot of all settings within the layouter and also project settings with everything visible
                          It’s not just happening on one project it’s on a bunch of projects but could be even more, I’ve only noticed it so far on a few because they’ve been completed and exported.

                          I’m just in bed now but will do a more in-depth video tomorrow and will show the extra info you’re asking about.

                          "There's only one thing more powerful than knowledge. The free sharing of it"


                          If you don't know the difference between Azimuth and Asimov, then either your tapes sound bad and your Robot is very dangerous. Kill all humans...... Or your tape deck won't harm a human, and your Robot's tracking and stereo imagining is spot on.

                          Is your Robot three laws safe?

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            what are you doing in bed at 5am :)
                            Anton Strauss
                            Antons Video Productions - Sydney

                            EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro 21H2

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by antonsvideo View Post
                              what are you doing in bed at 5am :)
                              I know, why sleep when you could be editing :)

                              "There's only one thing more powerful than knowledge. The free sharing of it"


                              If you don't know the difference between Azimuth and Asimov, then either your tapes sound bad and your Robot is very dangerous. Kill all humans...... Or your tape deck won't harm a human, and your Robot's tracking and stereo imagining is spot on.

                              Is your Robot three laws safe?

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