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    I have a one hour and 40 minute video that when I output from Edius, it comes out to be about 36 GB. I must have a smaller version of this.

    I am using the preset MPEG2 1920X1080 50MBS CBR 1920X1080 Linear PCM... if I use the one that is marked 25MBS VBR it does come out to be about half the size.

    So I use Handbrake and try variations, some files come out smaller, but the audio sync is then off. That defeats the whole purpose if I then attempt to edit the file in Edius and align the audio again, I still need to output via Edius, and still wind up in the same problem.

    Now how am I getting my smaller file currently? I upload my file to YouTube, and then use a YouTube downloader program Video Downloader Ultimate, and I download the highest resolution video file I can, and it downloads a VERY small 1GB file.

    This video works PERFECTLY and almost looks identical in resolution.

    How do I determine the codec, video format, etc... of this file from YouTube and create such a file on my own. It is unreal how long this process takes. Should Handbrake be able to do this and/or does anybody make files anywhere near this size directly out of Edius? I do just need it to be stored on Vimeo or YouTube and not even necessarily super perfect resolution.

    Help!?!

  • #2
    which version EDIUS do you have?

    if EDIUS9, you can make very small HD files using H264 with only 5M bitrate and it will look good

    earlier versions can't do that
    Anton Strauss
    Antons Video Productions - Sydney

    EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro 21H2

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    • #3
      How is the learning curve with the interface from 7 to 9?

      Making smaller videos like that should not produce out of sync audio?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Derek Hart View Post
        How is the learning curve with the interface from 7 to 9?

        Making smaller videos like that should not produce out of sync audio?
        there is no learning curve, all looks and works the same just a darker interface, and if you buy now, you also get the EDIUS 10 serial

        there won't be any out of sync

        there is also no out of sync with Handbrake, you must have done something wrong there
        Anton Strauss
        Antons Video Productions - Sydney

        EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro 21H2

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        • #5
          Should handbrake be able to produce this small of a file? Can you tell me what settings to put into handbrake?

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          • #6
            Derek, file size is dictated by the bitrate. See my post (#3) in this thread to show you how to figure out / calculate the bitrate required for handbrake or any other encoder for that matter.
            https://forum.grassvalley.com/forum/...-export-in-mp4


            For handbrake, best quality will be achieved using x264 2 pass vbr.

            handbrake also has a constant quality mode that tries to figure out a bitrate based on the quality slider. The recommended defaults usually look ok or can be tweaked if desired, but it’s a bit harder to estimate the file size because the bitrate can fluctuate a lot
            Edius WG 9.55.7761, various 3rd party plugins, VisTitle 2.9.6.0, Win 7 Ultimate SP1, i7-4790K @ 4GHz with HD4600 GPU embedded, MSI Z97 Gaming 7 Motherboard, 32GB Kingston HyperX RAM, nVidia GTX680 4GB GPU, Matrox MX02 Mini MAX, Corsair 750W PSU, Corsair H110i GT Water Cooler, Corsair C70 case, 8TB Internal RAID 0/stripe (2x4TB Seagate SATAIII HDD's, Win7 Software stripe), 1TB Crucial MX500 SSD, Pioneer BDR-207D, Dual 1920x1080 monitors (one on GTX680 and one on Intel HD4600).

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            • #7
              I never use any of the handbrake presets as they are designed for phone users only

              You need to roll your own and I posted my settings many times and these settings always work 100.000000%
              Anton Strauss
              Antons Video Productions - Sydney

              EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro 21H2

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              • #8
                Can you tell me what settings I might change in here to get to the H264 with only 5M bitrate as described above?
                Attached Files

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                • #9
                  tick dual pass and turbo first pass and type 5000

                  you have a later version Handbrake which I dislike, so you may also have to tick "Align A/V start"
                  Anton Strauss
                  Antons Video Productions - Sydney

                  EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro 21H2

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                  • #10
                    OK with those settings it still outputs the sync out of whack... I like the idea that the new Edius version will do this on one shot. Will wait a few weeks and grab Edius 10.

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                    • #11
                      Anton, do you know if my other 3rd party applications will upgrade along with the upgrade of Edius? NewBlueFX, Robuskey, Vistitle? Or do you think it's a full uninstall and reinstall of everything?

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                      • #12
                        you can copy the NewBlue folder and the vistile importer plugin from 7 Plugins to 9 Plugins
                        deactivate Robuskey in 7 and download the latest Robuskey, then activate it in 9

                        then when X is released, copy from 9 Plugins to X plugins
                        Anton Strauss
                        Antons Video Productions - Sydney

                        EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro 21H2

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                        • #13
                          Anton, in Edius 10, can you now tell me the options you choose to export a smaller file, but great resolution for Youtube, etc...

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                          • #14
                            if you untick hardware encoder, you can use 9M or less for HD

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                            Anton Strauss
                            Antons Video Productions - Sydney

                            EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro 21H2

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                            • #15
                              When I change the render settings in project, and make a clip, the smallest I can get this to render from a 175MB clip, 2 minutes long, is into 2.5 GB. This is really the main reason I bought Edius 10, hoping to not constantly make such huge files. What settings can I do to at least make a 175MB clip from a 175MB clip? Are these render settings customizable with a custom codec? Is there any kind of newer Handbrake conversion tool available inside Edius 10?

                              I literally upload these huge files to YouTube, and download them, and they are like 95% perfect quality, and 90% of the size.

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