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    Hi, I have a Canon XH-A1 and for the first time I am having issues with tapes. So I decided to use my computer on my last event to capture directly into Edius as a HQ 1440 x 1080 file and it seemed to work fine but I could not use my computer monitor as the video monitor due to the picture being about a half second behind so I used the camera monitor insted.
    I would like to know if others as using this method and is there any way to get the computer monitor to show real time viedo and any other advice other my have.
    My system is:
    Intel DP35DP motherboard.
    Inter E6700 Core 2 processor.
    4gb (1gb X 4) kingston ddr2 800 memory
    ATI 1650 with 128mb memory Video Card
    2 ea 500 gb Westren Digital Sata 2 Hard Drive (not in Raid)
    1 ea 250 gb Westren Digital Sata 2 System Hard Drive
    Windows XP Pro with SP 2
    P.S.
    Sometime this month I plan on up-dating my cpu to the new q9450 intel quad core cpu.
    Canopus HDBX-1000H, Second RX-E1 HD card for HD SDI capture, Complete NX set, Edius 6.08, Media Composer 7.02, Premiere Pro CS 6 and CC, Encore CS 6. I7 990, X58 Supermicro, 24 GB DDR 3 1066 memory, System Drive WD 10,000 RPM 500 GB HD X 2 in Raid 0, Capture Drive WD 10,000 RPM 500 GB HD X 2 in Raid 0. Storage Drive WD Black 1.5 TB HD and a EVGA GTX 780 VC.

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    Are you using firewire?
    If so there is nothing to do, I have been using firewire many times
    for direct to disk recording (dv-avi)in many different software and there have always been latency.
    I don´t know what is causing this, but I guess it is the firewire driver.

    Do you have a analog capture card, maybe that would work more realtime.

    Sebastian

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    • #3
      Yes I use the Firewire connection from Camcorder to Computer and No I don't have an anolog video card.
      I thank you for your advice. I will have to live with that very small screen canon put on my camcorder, but I have used my camcorder with my monitor only connected through the composit cables to the monitor and that works real time.
      Canopus HDBX-1000H, Second RX-E1 HD card for HD SDI capture, Complete NX set, Edius 6.08, Media Composer 7.02, Premiere Pro CS 6 and CC, Encore CS 6. I7 990, X58 Supermicro, 24 GB DDR 3 1066 memory, System Drive WD 10,000 RPM 500 GB HD X 2 in Raid 0, Capture Drive WD 10,000 RPM 500 GB HD X 2 in Raid 0. Storage Drive WD Black 1.5 TB HD and a EVGA GTX 780 VC.

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      • #4
        Jeff, welcome to the Forum.

        How much RAM shows up with 4GB installed? (just curious)

        RAID your 500GB drives... even a software RAID is fine.

        Unless you use Speed Encoder a lot you may be disappointed with the performance of a Quad-Core with Edius... I was.
        Rusty Rogers | Films
        >TYAN S7025 - 32GB RAM, 2 x Xeon X5690's, 4 x 10k video HD's, Win10 x64, BM DecklinkHD, nVidia TITAN, 12TB DroboPro w/iSCISI connection
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        An inglorious peace is better than a dishonorable war.
        Twain - "Glances at History" 1906

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        • #5
          Rusty,
          I checked task manager and it showed 3402112 K for physical memory.
          I just on my last project started capturing hvd instead of having the camcorder down convert to avi. I did notice when encoding that the time required was if I remember correctly about 4 times longer.
          I was thinking that by going to either the q6600 or wait another 10 days and go with the q9450 would at least get me back to a 1 to 1 capture to encode time. do you think that a higher core 2 would be better say a 3ghz or higher then the two quads I was looking at.

          Thank You
          Jeff King
          Canopus HDBX-1000H, Second RX-E1 HD card for HD SDI capture, Complete NX set, Edius 6.08, Media Composer 7.02, Premiere Pro CS 6 and CC, Encore CS 6. I7 990, X58 Supermicro, 24 GB DDR 3 1066 memory, System Drive WD 10,000 RPM 500 GB HD X 2 in Raid 0, Capture Drive WD 10,000 RPM 500 GB HD X 2 in Raid 0. Storage Drive WD Black 1.5 TB HD and a EVGA GTX 780 VC.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by jeff king View Post
            Hi, I have a Canon XH-A1 and for the first time I am having issues with tapes. So I decided to use my computer on my last event to capture directly into Edius as a HQ 1440 x 1080 file and it seemed to work fine but I could not use my computer monitor as the video monitor due to the picture being about a half second behind so I used the camera monitor insted.
            I would like to know if others as using this method and is there any way to get the computer monitor to show real time viedo and any other advice other my have.
            My system is:
            Intel DP35DP motherboard.
            Inter E6700 Core 2 processor.
            4gb (1gb X 4) kingston ddr2 800 memory
            ATI 1650 with 128mb memory Video Card
            2 ea 500 gb Westren Digital Sata 2 Hard Drive (not in Raid)
            1 ea 250 gb Westren Digital Sata 2 System Hard Drive
            Windows XP Pro with SP 2
            P.S.
            Sometime this month I plan on up-dating my cpu to the new q9450 intel quad core cpu.
            I do this but I use an Intensity Pro to capture with the same camera. I get realtime uncompressed capture with realtime preview on an external monitor.
            This is either by HDMI or Analog capture. If using HDMI I use a different camera to playback.

            Here is an option for you. Do you have an extra LCD tv? If so, you can take your analog outputs and input that into a TV for preview. When I do Location shoots, I have a portable 15in LCD that I take along, mostly for focusing.
            But, this procedure will work everytime.
            Jerry
            Six Gill DV
            www.sgdvtutorials.com
            If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

            Vistitle YouTube Channel
            https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVlxC8Am4qFbkXJRoPAnMQ/videos

            Windows 10 Pro up to v.1803 Tweaks for Edius Users
            http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


            Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, Corsair H110, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, HD Spark, Intensity Shuttle, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Benq 27 and Hanns-G 28 monitors, CC 2019, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
            Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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            • #7
              Capturing HDV over Firewire and previewing on the destination device will introduce a significant delay. This is the nature of the HDV format. Because it's Long-GOP MPEG-2, there's a certain threshold amount of data that must be received before picture can be decoded (at least one GOP which is roughly 1/2 second). The rest of the latency is decoding latency - the time required to actually decode the data.

              Unless you're getting uncompressed video (via HDMI or HD-SDI) or analog video, you're going to see a delay, regardless of whether you're going to a computer, another HDV camera, or an HDV deck.

              DV has the same issue, but to a much lesser extent because DV uses intra-frame compression, so only one frame is required before it can be decoded, but there's also a bit of decoding latency.

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