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  • tingsern
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    Hi Anton,

    Problem fixed :-). Many thanks. Yes - my monitor SD setting is 4:3. Have changed to 16:9. Also, ANAMO is set to NO. Have turned it to YES. Everything now looks very nice in SD.

    Ever since I got this setup, everything was in HD - until now.

    TS

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  • tingsern
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    Thanks ... I will do that tonight - and check it out.

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  • antonsvideo
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    Originally posted by tingsern View Post
    I am using my Panasonic broadcast monitor (BTLH1700W) as a TV :-).
    go to setup menu, VIDEOCONFIG

    SD ASPECT set to 16:9

    also, see what ANAMO is set to

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  • tingsern
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    I am using my Panasonic broadcast monitor (BTLH1700W) as a TV :-).

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  • antonsvideo
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    what is the model number of your TV? it really needs to have 2 wide settings, 1. wide and 2. anamorphic wide (2 is what you need)

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  • tingsern
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    Yes - I know the flag is set correctly - if I play the DVD on a PC using Software DVD player - it plays it as 16:9.

    So - either my Philips DVD player is not talking correctly to my monitor TV or the monitor is not interpreting the signal correctly. I suspect it will be the former - since my EDIUS (with the WSS flag turned on) puts the monitor into full 16:9 format nicely.

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  • DigitalDave
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    In which case ALL 16x9 would display wrong. It has to be a flag dont you think?

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  • tingsern
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    Please don't bother :-). Thank you. I found out three things -

    a) There is nothing wrong with ProCoder3 and DVDit Pro HD. Both are setting the 16:9 flag in the MPEG2 stream.

    b) Some software ignore the 16:9 flag and display the picture as 4:3 - despite being asked to display it as 16:9.

    c) My DVD player (Philips) has 3 TV display options -
    1. 4:3 Pan and Scan
    2. 4:3 Letterbox
    3. 16:9
    It was set to 16:9. But, my monitor is too smart - it won't go 16:9 because the frame was 720 x 576 !!! After setting it to 4:3 Letterbox - now it shows it correctly.

    Thanks for all the help here - I certainly learnt something along the way.

    TS

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  • tingsern
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    The output from ProCoder 3 is already 4:3 ... so that's the culprit.

    And - I must apologise - my eyesight is not too good now :-). The MPEG2 files I have been creating all these while is M2V and WAV .... NOT M2T.

    I played back the M2V file - and saw that the output is 4:3 - not 16:9.

    So - have to figure out how to configure ProCoder to output 16:9 to PAL TV.

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  • jaegersing
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    Originally posted by tingsern View Post
    When I tried using M2V to pass to DVD authoring tool (DVDit) during the SD days - I found the transcoding process to be very slow. So I tried to create a M2T and a WAV and test it - it was very much faster.

    I don't know about it now - have to go back and experiment.
    Ting Sern, if you create a valid (i.e. DVD compliant) m2v file from your project, it should not need any further transcoding during the DVD authoring. Just multiplexing with the audio to make a VOB file.

    What I do is export as file from Edius timeline to PC3, and I have a preset there for SD DVD compliant MPEG2 video (m2v) and PCM wav audio. I then use Vegas DVD Architect to author the disk. It accepts the video and audio files without further transcoding. And 16:9 projects are maintained as 16:9.

    Richard

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  • tingsern
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    When I tried using M2V to pass to DVD authoring tool (DVDit) during the SD days - I found the transcoding process to be very slow. So I tried to create a M2T and a WAV and test it - it was very much faster.

    I don't know about it now - have to go back and experiment.

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  • DigitalDave
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    I am interested to know if there is any advantage in using a "t" file over and M2v file for SD?

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  • tingsern
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    I need to go back and see what exactly is the problem now - is it the output from ProCoder or is it caused by DVDit Pro HD .... will report back. Thanks for the discussion.

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  • shueardm
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    Well, all i can say is that I don't have your problem and i don't use transport files. We both have the same software.

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  • tingsern
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    But, is that the cause of the problem here? Getting 16:9 to work on a PAL TV? I doubt it - I have used M2T and WAV before without any trouble. It was done without ProCoder 3 -

    Was encoding timeline to MPEG2 using the Storm's MPEG h/w encoder chip and using DVDit to author the MPEG2 stream. Output from Storm was M2T and WAV. So - I am pretty sure that is not the source of the problem. Of course, it was SD source - output to SD h/w.

    If source was 4:3, output played back as 4:3. If source was 16:9, it played 16:9. Everything was SD - of course.

    Now - I am taking HD and converting to SD.

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