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  • #16
    I am interested to know if there is any advantage in using a "t" file over and M2v file for SD?

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    • #17
      When I tried using M2V to pass to DVD authoring tool (DVDit) during the SD days - I found the transcoding process to be very slow. So I tried to create a M2T and a WAV and test it - it was very much faster.

      I don't know about it now - have to go back and experiment.
      TingSern
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      • #18
        Originally posted by tingsern View Post
        When I tried using M2V to pass to DVD authoring tool (DVDit) during the SD days - I found the transcoding process to be very slow. So I tried to create a M2T and a WAV and test it - it was very much faster.

        I don't know about it now - have to go back and experiment.
        Ting Sern, if you create a valid (i.e. DVD compliant) m2v file from your project, it should not need any further transcoding during the DVD authoring. Just multiplexing with the audio to make a VOB file.

        What I do is export as file from Edius timeline to PC3, and I have a preset there for SD DVD compliant MPEG2 video (m2v) and PCM wav audio. I then use Vegas DVD Architect to author the disk. It accepts the video and audio files without further transcoding. And 16:9 projects are maintained as 16:9.

        Richard

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        • #19
          The output from ProCoder 3 is already 4:3 ... so that's the culprit.

          And - I must apologise - my eyesight is not too good now :-). The MPEG2 files I have been creating all these while is M2V and WAV .... NOT M2T.

          I played back the M2V file - and saw that the output is 4:3 - not 16:9.

          So - have to figure out how to configure ProCoder to output 16:9 to PAL TV.
          TingSern
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          Edius 10 WG, Lenovo P72 workstation laptop, 64GB RAM, Xeon CPU, Windows 11 Pro (64 bits), 2 x 2TB Samsung M2.NVME and 1 x 4TB Samsung SSD internal. Panasonic UX180 camera, Blackmagic 4K Pocket Cinema

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          • #20
            Please don't bother :-). Thank you. I found out three things -

            a) There is nothing wrong with ProCoder3 and DVDit Pro HD. Both are setting the 16:9 flag in the MPEG2 stream.

            b) Some software ignore the 16:9 flag and display the picture as 4:3 - despite being asked to display it as 16:9.

            c) My DVD player (Philips) has 3 TV display options -
            1. 4:3 Pan and Scan
            2. 4:3 Letterbox
            3. 16:9
            It was set to 16:9. But, my monitor is too smart - it won't go 16:9 because the frame was 720 x 576 !!! After setting it to 4:3 Letterbox - now it shows it correctly.

            Thanks for all the help here - I certainly learnt something along the way.

            TS
            TingSern
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            • #21
              In which case ALL 16x9 would display wrong. It has to be a flag dont you think?

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              • #22
                Yes - I know the flag is set correctly - if I play the DVD on a PC using Software DVD player - it plays it as 16:9.

                So - either my Philips DVD player is not talking correctly to my monitor TV or the monitor is not interpreting the signal correctly. I suspect it will be the former - since my EDIUS (with the WSS flag turned on) puts the monitor into full 16:9 format nicely.
                TingSern
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                Edius 10 WG, Lenovo P72 workstation laptop, 64GB RAM, Xeon CPU, Windows 11 Pro (64 bits), 2 x 2TB Samsung M2.NVME and 1 x 4TB Samsung SSD internal. Panasonic UX180 camera, Blackmagic 4K Pocket Cinema

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                • #23
                  what is the model number of your TV? it really needs to have 2 wide settings, 1. wide and 2. anamorphic wide (2 is what you need)
                  Anton Strauss
                  Antons Video Productions - Sydney

                  EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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                  • #24
                    I am using my Panasonic broadcast monitor (BTLH1700W) as a TV :-).
                    TingSern
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                    Edius 10 WG, Lenovo P72 workstation laptop, 64GB RAM, Xeon CPU, Windows 11 Pro (64 bits), 2 x 2TB Samsung M2.NVME and 1 x 4TB Samsung SSD internal. Panasonic UX180 camera, Blackmagic 4K Pocket Cinema

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by tingsern View Post
                      I am using my Panasonic broadcast monitor (BTLH1700W) as a TV :-).
                      go to setup menu, VIDEOCONFIG

                      SD ASPECT set to 16:9

                      also, see what ANAMO is set to
                      Anton Strauss
                      Antons Video Productions - Sydney

                      EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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                      • #26
                        Thanks ... I will do that tonight - and check it out.
                        TingSern
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                        Edius 10 WG, Lenovo P72 workstation laptop, 64GB RAM, Xeon CPU, Windows 11 Pro (64 bits), 2 x 2TB Samsung M2.NVME and 1 x 4TB Samsung SSD internal. Panasonic UX180 camera, Blackmagic 4K Pocket Cinema

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                        • #27
                          Hi Anton,

                          Problem fixed :-). Many thanks. Yes - my monitor SD setting is 4:3. Have changed to 16:9. Also, ANAMO is set to NO. Have turned it to YES. Everything now looks very nice in SD.

                          Ever since I got this setup, everything was in HD - until now.

                          TS
                          TingSern
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                          Edius 10 WG, Lenovo P72 workstation laptop, 64GB RAM, Xeon CPU, Windows 11 Pro (64 bits), 2 x 2TB Samsung M2.NVME and 1 x 4TB Samsung SSD internal. Panasonic UX180 camera, Blackmagic 4K Pocket Cinema

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