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  • Imagine Video
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    OK - I have not tried that - I see what you are saying now! I will give it a go!

    Angelo - What motherboard are you using - This is a good bit of news will you system capture to HDV via the PCIe Pyro card while the storm board is in your system?

    Is the PCIe card aN ADS TECHNOLOGIES PYRO CARD LIKE THIS ONE

    http://www.adstech.com/products/API-...sp?pid=API-316


    If not what make and model is it?

    Thanks for all your help to resolve this.

    Cathryn

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  • GrassValley_BH
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    Originally posted by Imagine Video View Post
    Grass Valley BH - How would that have got onto my system if the only thing I installed was EDIUS
    The Canopus DV Driver install is required for "legacy" hardware (DVStorm, DVRaptor-RT2, DVX-E1) to work in EDIUS. The EDIUS installer should install it for you during the installation process, but it isn't necessarily updated in update installs.

    So... Go to Add/Remove Programs, find Canopus DV Driver. Uninstall it.
    Reboot the machine.
    Then go to the EDIUS v4.6 download, in the Drivers folder, go to Canopus DV Driver, and install it.

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  • Angelo
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    Originally posted by Imagine Video View Post
    QUESTION:

    Would buying a PCIe OHCI card like the PYRO PCIe version help? so putting the card in a PCIe slot rather than a pci slot next to the Storm card?

    I have to say I had problems with the DVStorm2 and Pyro PCI card on the same system. My fix was replacing the Pyro PCI to a Pyro PCI-E, no problems since.

    So yes try the Pyro PCI-E chances are it will fix your problem.

    ...Angelo

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  • Imagine Video
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    Plasma

    Glad you like it....Its a great little app and saves you using EDIUS but it does not seem to support file splitting.....you know when you can split the capture when you have a start stop on the tape!

    If it did I would be a happy bunny! But No!

    However I am glad to see I am not alone! There is NO sharing conflict in my pc either, it is just EDIUS does not like capturing via firewire while there is a storm card in the pc it would seem.

    Grass Valley BH - How would that have got onto my system if the only thing I installed was EDIUS

    I had a clean install of XPpro SP2 Then put Storm 2 in and then loaded EDIUS thats it.

    So the only drivers related to Storm on the machine are the ones from the EDIUS Install

    OR am I looking at this wrong? need it explained like I'm a 6yr old please

    Thanks

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  • plasma_video
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    Well here's the deal -

    I can capture just fine using the MPEG Capture Utility to HQ! No Disc Too Slow Errors using the MPEG Capture Utility.

    That leads me to believe the problem is indeed in EDIUS, not a hardware conflict on my machine, or too slow a processor/buss - unless EDIUS introduces a lot of overhead.

    I'm on EDIUS 4.54 BTW.

    Well now at least I can capture to HQ without having to capture to m2t and then convert from within the bin!

    Now to work on the 24P dilemma.

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  • plasma_video
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    Cathryn, (or others)

    Where exactly is the MPEG capture utility you speak of? I checked all of my update downloaded folders through 4.54 and cannot find any "bonus" directory.

    If it is on an original disc somewhere, those are at my other location right now and I'll have to go get them.

    I would like to experiment with that and see if I can capture HQ with the utility.

    I do know that whenever my ADS Pyro external A/D converter is turned on, EDIUS absolutely will not allow me to capture using the Storm card for SD, (with EDIUS in SD Storm mode), so I know there is some kind of conflict.

    Tom

    EDIT: Found it on the website under the extras for EDIUS and installed it. I'm going to experiment.

    Thanks for the tip.
    Last edited by plasma_video; 03-06-2008, 01:23 AM.

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  • GrassValley_BH
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    Hi Cath,

    No, not the DVStorm driver (in Device Manager), but the Canopus DV Driver, which is an application... Try uninstalling Canopus DV Driver from Add/Remove Programs, reboot, then install the one in the EDIUS v4.6 download (in the Drivers folder).

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  • Imagine Video
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    Do you mean the legacy dvstorm 2 drivers? If so This was a fresh install of windows and brand new machine
    Storm is running on ONLY the drivers within 4.5 - then upgraded to 4.6 with upgrade dowload.

    BUT Funny you should say this as I did have this running sweet in my old system!

    I had an intel board G915 GEV running The Old legacy storm 2 drivers then installed the EDIUS 4.5 software then the upgrade to 4.54

    But the system was not efective at editing HDV HQ hence the upgrades that have taken place.

    My aim was only to utilise this machine:

    ASUS P5W64WS
    P4 3.8 (to be upgraded to core 2 duo 3ghz)
    2 gig ddr2 800mghz OCZ platinum memory
    STORM 2 (all SD work)
    PYRO CARD (HDV capture for rough edit...to transfere project to main machine later)

    For SD editing and Capture of HDV to a pullout drive to be transfered into my main machine. Just trying to maximise my time in the office........good worker I am!!


    Cath

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  • GrassValley_BH
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    You might already have done this, but try uninstalling the Canopus DV Driver program, reboot, then install the one included in the v4.6 build.

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  • Imagine Video
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    Still an issue

    Grass Valley BH + George

    I have tryed each and every way.................It seems

    The Storm cards operation is spot on in every aspect WITH or WITHOUT the Pyro Card in the machine.

    Its the other way around................With the Storm card in and enabled HDV capture via the OHCI HDV setting is effected, both onboard and PYRO firewire ports

    Remove or just disable storm in device manager and Capture of HDV to HQ via PYRO or ONBOARD is Fine

    NOW this in all instances is using EDIUS as the capture programme for STORM and PYRO

    I can Capture HDV TO HQ with the PYRO card with STORM in and enabled

    IF

    I use the MPEG capture utility that comes with EDIUS in the bonus folder.

    The Pyro card is IRQ 20

    The Storm card is IRQ 21

    If I switch them in the PCI slots the IRQ will change respectfully.......So I assume they are not sharing IRQ resources..........

    COME ON GRASS VALLEY GIVE ME A FANTASIC trade in deal for my storm card..........;-)

    Do you think a PCIe PYRO card would make any difference, Im not sure at this point?


    Cathryn

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  • GrassValley_BH
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    DVStorm and OHCI have no relationship driver-wise...
    Sounds like there's some kind of bus bandwidth issue - maybe DVStorm and the Pyro are sharing resources?

    Do what George suggested - pull the Pyro and see how things work with the on-board OHCI.

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  • gdame
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    Cathryn,

    Take out the Pyro card and try the onboard OHCI port that is available on that mainboard.

    Then let me know.

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  • plasma_video
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    I believe my ability to capture HDV using HQ is also being affected by having the Storm card and OHCI in the same machine. Granted, I have not yet tried disabling the Storm card, but if my ADS Pyro capture device is turned on, the Storm card will not operate (capture) even if EDIUS is in Storm mode. So I'm wondering if conversely the Storm card interferes with an OHCI device in some way.

    From what I've been reading, my system should be fast enough to capture HDV using HQ with OHCI, but it chokes immediately with the dreaded "Destination Disc Too Slow" - you would thing a 90mbs throughput RAID would be fast enough, so as Brandon said in another thread, that's a generic message meaning there's trouble in River City..

    Tom

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  • johnsirb
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    I've got the Storm2 and Pyro PCI-E running in the same machine. capturing seems fine. the only issue is I can't monitor HDV out.
    I think either Storm doesn't support it or the Sony DVCam deck it's going into doesn't ...or both ( I've tried from the OHCI to the Dvcam and no joy)

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  • Imagine Video
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    YES!! GrassValley_BH I know and it does BUT on the HDV through the PYRO 1394 card it is pixilated and unuseable footage

    If I remove or disable storm in device manager Then HDV Capture through the the PYRO card is SPOT ON. ALSO with mainboards 1394 port.


    There is a conflict of some sort with STORM DRIVERS and ANY OTHER 1394 port

    BUT The mpeg capture utility works! Is this because its a stand alone capture application??

    I think its something to do with EDIUS and the way it loads the drivers for storm?

    Bottom line capture through EDIUS FOR HDV WITH A FIREWIRE card is not possible for me while I have a Storm card in the machine........This machine!

    On an older machine - Intel 915 gev mobo EDIUS, STORM and PYRO card played well together? This was with EDIUS 4.54

    Can you think of anything else It could be? OR any oother ways to isolate the possible problem?

    Do you think a PCIe PYRO CARD would do it?

    Thanks -

    Of couse an additional NXe would do the trick!!:-)

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