Disc Too Slow Error - Not Enough RAM?

[JimJulian]

I have 2 systems

1 As my sig at the bottom with NXe this is a Gdame inspired setup and it works without error up to now NO disk to slow.

2 system is a single core p4 3.8 ghz chip machine with 2 gig ddr2800 OCZ platinum memory. I can induce the disk too slow by crancking up the quality on the HQ avi capture from 1440 x 1080i HDV from Sony Z1 iF I USE ONLINE FINE the processor is running at 85 - 95% and if it peaks over 95 I will get the disk too slow error and capture stops. Drop down to online standard and the processor runs at 75 - 85% and no problem even from 1440 x 1080i to HQ to a single SATA 2 drive.

Cath

Exactly where do you manipulate the online HQ quality in Edius? I know you can do it in Print to File output. But does that affect input as well?


jim

[GrassValley_KH]

Exactly where do you manipulate the online HQ quality in Edius? I know you can do it in Print to File output. But does that affect input as well?

Input controls are found within the Settings->Hardware Settings->YOURHARDWARE->Canopus HQ Codec Settings

[Just_Edit]

For the record, Matrox RTX.2 or Axio are not problem free either. Look up their forums and you will see. But let's not get off topic here.. which is about "Disk too slow".

I have completely rebuilt a brand new system with the Intel X38 chipset running EDIUS NX v4.54. I used a single Seagate ES SATA2 drive with 16M cache as video drive, and no "disk too slow" error yet after over an hour of video capture through S-video in. I will let it run to 2 hours and then will switch the input to Firewire... and then will change the video drive to the new Seagate ES.2 SATA2. Then I will repeat this same process again and see if the "disk too slow" issue appears.

FYI, Seagate did inform me that some of their new ES.2 SATA2 drives have firmware issues that might affect data throughput.

Now, for all of EDIUS users on here that has experienced consistent "disk too slow" error, can you tell me what "chipset" you are using in your system? Maybe even the brand/make of your motherboard? I am trying to see if this issue only affects certain Intel P965 or 975 chipsets only and not others.

[mike0130]

This error has nothing to do with Segate. I had it on Western Digital RAID. This error is a resault of RAID controller that conflicts with new overlay. You can go back to ver4.0 or so and you will not see this error or switch from RAID to single disk for video capture. Most likely in both cases you will have no errors. Maybe your new chipset will help too...
My point is- this is a bug, because without any hardware changes you can work on the old Edius- 3.61 working completely perfect. And we reported this problem to GV since ver. 4.5. What I cannot understand is why we still have this bug in 4.6? Why instead of adding new camcorders support we do not have basic functions fixed?

[tingsern]

I used Adaptec SCSI RAID controller, Intel RAID SATA BIOS - have Seagate Enterprise SATA HDDs, Maxtor and Seagate SCSI HDDs ... I don't experience this "Disc Too Slow" error on my system at all.

Audio - I used both the onboard audio chip and Echo Audio's Gina 3G (http://www.echoaudio.com/Products/PCI/Gina3G/index.php) - no problems with EDIUS whatsoever.

[Imagine Video]

We do need to keep this going as it seems for some this is an every day occurance it cant all be just config problems can it?

I am not experiencing this at the moment.........but still I know how fustrating interruptions in your working day can be when you just need to acomplish more than a clean capture.

I have turned everything off I dont need in my ststem tray set all hdds to always on and no screen saver any automatic processes are turned off and I am not connected to anything the pc is purley an edit station NO printers scanners not a thing..........

Is this the case for you?

Cath

[tingsern]

Cath,

You can create multiple partitions and install the same copy of Windows - and in that partition, you can install any other software inside. That's how I am doing with mine. 3 Partitions -

2 are WinXP 32, 1 is WinXP 64. One of the WinXP 32 is the EDIUS partition. Software inside ONLY for editing video and nothing else.

[skier-hughes]

System details
Mobo - Gigabyte 965p-ds3
Core 2 Duo E6420 2.13 ghz
enermax liberty elt500awt 500w power supply
Nvidia 8500gt
edius nx express pcie and front bay
Creative audigy 2 sound card and front bay
Sony dvd rw drive
floppy
WD 36gb raptor with XP 86
WD 36 gbraptor with XP 86
Maxtor 2 x 200g in raid 0 using gigabyte gbb36x controller
Not sure on make of last disc, but may be IBM 120gb partitoned to 40gb for vista 86 and 80gb storage.
2 monitors, currently a Acer P223W 22" widescreen tft and a 17" CRT
Acard scsi controller for scanwit slide scanner
Extra USB2 pci card that came with old motherboard
PCI Firewire card
1 x 300gb - USB2, 1 x 320gb - USB2 1 x 500gb - Firewire external drives used for storage. I capture to the internal raid, work from that and transfer stuff for keeping to the external drives.

Can't think of anything else!!

Use Edius 4.54 to capture and edit, procoder express to encode Ulead WS2 to author.
I capture vhs tapes via the composite inputs on the front bay or firewire from minidv to front bay.
Some days I ahve the disk to slow error message and days like yesterday and the day before go with out a hitch, when I captured an hour of mini dv and 6 1/2 hours of vhs.

I use diskeeper 2008 to defragment.

This machine does not connect to the net, no office programmes, just editing, photoshop, imaginate and other programmes like that. I can list if you want me to.

I used v 1.1 which came with my nx express and that worked fine, the next update worked fine, I started getting errors when I moved to 4.52.

Graham

[tingsern]

Graham,

Just to test - can you disable your Creative Sound Card and use the Onboard audio (on your motherboard) - and see whether you still experience "Disc Too Slow" Error?

[skier-hughes]

I can try that, but;

1. I go on holiday tomorrow :)

2. I never know when the disc to slow message will come up, so when I get back it may be the first time I try or the 20th.

Graham

[tingsern]

That's nice. Enjoy your holidays then.

[Stereodesign]

I have two nx systems of near identical build one with the HD expansion board and that uses M-audio soundcard that so far has not suffered "disc too slow"
The other system without the HD expansion uses the on-board sound and suffers the "disk too slow" error.
Apart for the the details above the build is the same on each system.
Canopus approved MoBo, RAID 0, etc etc.
Never had the error on versions previous to v4.5 with the identical hardware/software setup.
It is a bug.

[tingsern]

In as much as Canopus won't acknowledge the problem as a software bug - but thinks it is caused by h/w conflicts - until proven otherwise - we can try to stop devices and see if the problem go away.

It could be caused by the way 4.5 and higher uses the h/w? - I don't know.

[skier-hughes]

Forgot to say,
If I keep trying to capture once I have the disc too slow message it never captures, always giving me the message.
Moslty it is right at the start when I try to capture, but sometimes it is half way through a vhs 3 hour tape.

When I get the emssage, if I restart the pc it then captures fine.

When I have had the message I have then tried capturing via movie maker and firewire through the nx front bay and it works fine.

I intend to enjoy my hols, so long as it snows here in Europe otherwise the skiings' not going to be great!!

[tingsern]

You mean to tell me that it is still snowing at this time of the year? A bit late for skiing :-).