How many are using Edius without NXExpress card?

[leethomas]

I'm interested in upgrading my system to edit HDV. I currently have an Edius with an older NX card combination and naturally thought I'd upgrade in that fashion. However, I was just talking to a friend who uses Edius only without the NX cards. I'm just wondering how many of you use Edius as a standalone editor without any of the NX cards...? Is this a good way of doing it or would I be better off upgrading to the NXExpress bundle...? Just trying to get some feedback - thanks!

Lee

Since I have an older NX card, I've been told it would make more sense upgrading my NX hardware as well.

[Jerry]

I'm interested in upgrading my system to edit HDV. I currently have an Edius with an older NX card combination and naturally thought I'd upgrade in that fashion. However, I was just talking to a friend who uses Edius only without the NX cards. I'm just wondering how many of you use Edius as a standalone editor without any of the NX cards...? Is this a good way of doing it or would I be better off upgrading to the NXExpress bundle...? Just trying to get some feedback - thanks!

Lee

Since I have an older NX card, I've been told it would make more sense upgrading my NX hardware as well.

You can use it just fine without the NX card. However, you do not have an output to monitor. What's wrong with the older NX card? If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
There really is no need to upgrade, unless you are going to change motherboards and chips and you are going all PCI-E slots, or going to use a MAC with bootcamp much like Stormdave.
Do you need the hardware encoder?
There is no acceleration on either the PCI-X card that you have or the PCI-E card.
I would save your money for something else, such as more drive space.

[gdame]

I'm interested in upgrading my system to edit HDV. I currently have an Edius with an older NX card combination and naturally thought I'd upgrade in that fashion. However, I was just talking to a friend who uses Edius only without the NX cards. I'm just wondering how many of you use Edius as a standalone editor without any of the NX cards...? Is this a good way of doing it or would I be better off upgrading to the NXExpress bundle...? Just trying to get some feedback - thanks!

Lee

Since I have an older NX card, I've been told it would make more sense upgrading my NX hardware as well.

Lee,

Edius works great without any hardware at all. Only an OHCI firewire card and it runs the same as if it where installed with NX. The drawback is that you do not get a realtime monitor output for feeding your video monitor. You have to rely on the edius preview window which is not that great if you like to do a lot of color correction and filters. You just will not be able to work in a WYSWYG enviroment. I personally must have a video display to see what my customer is going to see while I am editing.

An alternative to the NX is connecting a camcorder or DV deck to the OHCI port and sending the analog signal from that to a monitor. You can then see a down res SD output on an SD monitor, but that monitor must be 16:9 or have a 16:9 switch. There will be a little delay from the Edius window but it does work.

I have a client that has one of my high end NX systems and he also has one of my high end laptops. He regulary takes a project in the works off of his workstation and works on it at home with his laptop. At home he plugs the OHCI into his DSR-40 and views it on his 14" Sony PVM broadcast monitor in SD 16:9.

It works, but if you want to monitor exactly what you are editing then you need NX.

How much was the expansion card you had found that would upgrade your current NX?

[LightPrism]

I have a client that has one of my high end NX systems and he also has one of my high end laptops. He regulary takes a project in the works off of his workstation and works on it at home with his laptop. At home he plugs the OHCI into his DSR-40 and views it on his 14" Sony PVM broadcast monitor in SD 16:9

Fooling around with this workflow only I'm using a DSR-20 - it's seen as an AV/C Multifunction Device - Sony Camera/Recorder but is looking for the driver. Where would I find such a generic driver?

[gdame]

My clients DSR-40 says the same thing. Just cancel that and put a check mark on "do not try to install again". When you get into Edius select OHCI SD NTSC 16:9 and you should have control of the deck. Be sure that the deck is in DV input mode of course.

[Bluetongue]

Edius works great without any hardware at all. Only an OHCI firewire card and it runs the same as if it where installed with NX. The drawback is that you do not get a realtime monitor output for feeding your video monitor. You have to rely on the edius preview window which is not that great if you like to do a lot of color correction and filters. You just will not be able to work in a WYSWYG enviroment. I personally must have a video display to see what my customer is going to see while I am editing.

As this thread seems to be a little off target I thought I would add my small bit to working without an NX card in HD
To overcome the inability to monitor directly on an external monitor I use a dual monitor system both 22" wide screen with the left monitor dedicated to the Edius Monitor in Single mode taking up the full screen.
The monitor auto switches between Record and play or it is easy to click on the appropriate button.
This works exceedingly well with HD and the picture is sharp and the colours appear correct (I make sure the colour calibration is correct periodically with a gray screen and colour samples)
I have no problems with colour correction on this system and can see immediately if the focus on the original in not correct.
Not so good in SD as the picture is rather blurred
Maybe some day someone will invent a box like the ADVC100 that works in HD, I will be the first to line up.
I get around this by working in up to 7 minute sequences, output them to a DVICO HD player, by saving the HD file direct to the Hard Drive on the DIVICO (USB2) and then play on my WS monitor.
Takes a few extra minutes but I do not have any compatibility problems.
An NX would be nice but their are no guarantees it will be compatibility with my MB set up, at the moment my graphics card takes up one of the PVIEx1 slots with its cooler which leave only 2 either side of the graphics card.
I do have 2 PCIEx16 slots but have no idea how the Graphics card would work in slot 2 instead of 1? and that would give me space for the NX plus daughter card for HD, Compatible?
Regards Barry

[SoundFreak]

Matrox has a video output box for this Matrox MXO, listed at 999 USD but stated that this is for Final Cut Pro.

Not sure if this is PC compatible because there is no "ONLY" at the FCP listing.

It's for HD & SD ..................

[Bluetongue]

Matrox has a video output box for this Matrox MXO, listed at 999 USD but stated that this is for Final Cut Pro.
Not sure if this is PC compatible because there is no "ONLY" at the FCP listing.
It's for HD & SD ..................

Looked good but meant for MAC, there seems to be a software component to direct O/P from QT "V" what ever that means via the DVI connector on a laptop and probably desktop
Pitty
Barry