EDIUS 4.6 upgrade and Sorenson Squeeze 4.5

[tingsern]

I downloaded the 4.6 EDIUS upgrade - no problem. Installed the patch - no problem. Start EDIUS 4.6 Broadcast - also no problem. Edit an existing project - also no problem ... save the AVI using Canopus HQ.

That's where it gets interesting. All of the Sorenson Squeeze's (4.5.700) import file shows the Canopus AVI video ... upside down !!! Before I upgraded EDIUS - version 4.54 ... Sorenson Squeeze's display is okay. After I upgrade, it is not okay.

If I just double clicked on the Canopus AVI (using REAL PLAYER) - no problem. I also use SonicFire Pro 4 - to load the video - no problem. ProCoder 3 - no problem as well.

Hence - the problem is only with Sorenson Squeeze. Has anybody who has Sorenson Squeeze try it and see if the AVI file is displayed upside down?

I tried both an existing Canopus AVI HQ file and one that was created by the new EDIUS 4.6 - both showed the same behavior on Squeeze. Something must be corrupting Squeeze somewhere.

[Rusty]

ON2 also "flips" out too!

Make your project settings SD and out in MS CODEC and all will be well!

[tingsern]

Hi Rusty,

Project settings in EDIUS or Sorenson? What if I need HD output then? Instead of SD? MS Codec - which one did you choose?

Whose fault is this? Glass Valley or Sorenson?

Thanks.

[shueardm]

Yes I noticed this the other day too, it didn't dawn on me that it was related to EDIUS. I need to use HD not SD source files.

[tingsern]

Hello Glass Valley,

We have a confirmed problem with EDIUS 4.6 upgrade and Sorenson Squeeze now. It is definitely caused by EDIUS 4.6 upgrade. I can bypass the problem temporarily by using ProCoder 3. Can someone in Glass Valley please confirm that they can duplicate the problem first? Then we can wait for a fix from Glass Valley after that ....

I need to use HD - cannot be SD.

Thank you.

[planetweckesser]

Hello Glass Valley,

We have a confirmed problem with EDIUS 4.6 upgrade and Sorenson Squeeze now. It is definitely caused by EDIUS 4.6 upgrade. I can bypass the problem temporarily by using ProCoder 3. Can someone in Glass Valley please confirm that they can duplicate the problem first? Then we can wait for a fix from Glass Valley after that ....

I need to use HD - cannot be SD.

Thank you.

I wondered what you guys were talking about since I only produce .m2t files (after editing with Canopus HQ) and then use Sorenson Squeeze to produce the Blu-ray compliant files and had never seen this. Just tried it and indeed the image is upside down but if you click on the player it plays right side up. However, encoding with Squeeze - the resultant file (.m2v in this instance) played upside down. I have encoded with Edius Pro 4.6 and Procoder 3 (update 3.05) to .m2v files and no such problem.

[tingsern]

That is precisely the problem. Because Sorenson Squeeze displays the video upside down, the encoded video (MP4, .MT2, etc, etc) output from Sorenson is also upside down. Prior to the EDIUS 4.6 upgrade, Sorenson Squeeze is fine - displays the video right side up and its output is also correctly displayed.

[mike0130]

I downloaded the 4.6 EDIUS upgrade - no problem. Installed the patch - no problem. Start EDIUS 4.6 Broadcast - also no problem.

Did I miss something? What kind of patch will make a broadcast from my downloaded Edius Pro? It is already interesting...

[tingsern]

EDIUS upgrades and even the base 4.00 ALL include the BROADCAST modules. The software will upgrade "EVERYTHING" in your HDD.

However, the way EDIUS recognises whether it is PRO or BROADCAST is via the Broadcast dongle.

If you don't have the Broadcast dongle, EDIUS will revert to PRO.

[shueardm]

Out of pure interest I'd love to know why this has happened too. Never seen this before.

[vanrugge]

One thing I have noticed (with both Sorenson and On2VP) is that the only codecs affected are canopus lossless and Canopus HQ. Also I found that if you encode directly from the timeline the video appears correctly. The whole thing is a little frustrating.

[planetweckesser]

One thing I have noticed (with both Sorenson and On2VP) is that the only codecs affected are canopus lossless and Canopus HQ. Also I found that if you encode directly from the timeline the video appears correctly. The whole thing is a little frustrating.

Are you indicating that you can encode directly from the timeline (in Edius Pro 4.6) with Sorenson Squeeze? Excuse my stupidity but I had no idea you could do that.

[vanrugge]

What program are you using to encode .flv? Because most of them plugin directly into the export options of Edius 4.6 so that you can encode directly from the timeline (e.g. F11) then choose flash video. I am using the flash 8 video encoder that comes included with Flash 8 and gives you the option of Sorenson or On2VP. But in short, yes, you can encode directly from the timeline.

The other option is to set up a watch folder with Pro Coder Express and you can export from the timeline in whichever codec you prefer (I have only noticed the reversal/inversion problem happening with Canopus HQ and Canopus Lossless) and by selecting quicktime export in PCE and setting your parameters there, it somehow bypasses the reversal/inversion issue.

[planetweckesser]

What program are you using to encode .flv? Because most of them plugin directly into the export options of Edius 4.6 so that you can encode directly from the timeline (e.g. F11) then choose flash video. I am using the flash 8 video encoder that comes included with Flash 8 and gives you the option of Sorenson or On2VP. But in short, yes, you can encode directly from the timeline.

The other option is to set up a watch folder with Pro Coder Express and you can export from the timeline in whichever codec you prefer (I have only noticed the reversal/inversion problem happening with Canopus HQ and Canopus Lossless) and by selecting quicktime export in PCE and setting your parameters there, it somehow bypasses the reversal/inversion issue.

I am only working with HDV files (.m2t) that are converted to Canopus HQ for editing and then use either Procoder 3 or
Speed Encoder for HDV (Canopus plugin) to make .m2t files. I then use Sorenson to convert the .m2t into elementary streams (.m2v) that are blu-ray compliant for authoring blu-ray discs through DVDit ProHD. I also encode directly from the Edius timeline to the blu-ray compliant files using Procoder 3 (takes a lot longer than Sorenson Squeeze).

Is there a way to go from the Edius timeline (using Canopus HQ codec [fine setting]) directly to HD elementary streams using Sorenson Squeeze without a lot of intermediary steps. I thought the only way to do that would be through Procoder 3 or Procoder Express.

[vanrugge]

Sorry, my mistake. When you said Sorenson I automatically assumed it was Sorenson Spark/Squeeze for compression to .flv (flash video) not .m2v. That's where I have been having the same problem with video being inverted. I am not aware of any way of compressing directly from the timeline into .m2v.

My apologies for the confusion!