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  • #16
    Have you guys tried Squeeze at all?

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    • #17
      Hi Khoi
      Tried the TMPGenc 4.0 Express encoder, yes excellent, I have done some playing with it as it seems to be a later version than your settings but I think I have it right.
      Used your settings for Noise 10 and Antiflicker MAX (256) and tried the de interlace presets the two best were Interpolate Adjusted with Deinterlace when necessary and Deinterlace always (double frame rate) all looked good
      Have done some more with Procoder
      As Before used Canopus HQ 1440 x 1080 - Circular Blur .5 on the Source
      On the output I added the Sharpen filter with the settings as follows
      Radius of Blur 3
      Blend .5
      Thresh hold 3
      and this is now starting to look really good, needs some more tweaking

      As to being able to use the time line assess, I found it not really a guide as I am using the EDIUS Monitor window which is not all that flash at SD and I can see little change between the clips
      Perhaps this is telling me I need an NX board to look at the timeline
      I am now going to try some more with both codecs to see what improvement I can make
      Regards Barry
      Win 10HP, EDIUS WG9.4, HD Spark, Boris RED 5, VMW6, Authorworks 6, Bluff Titler, VisTitler 2.8, NEAT 3/4, Mercalli 2/4, Vitascene, Izotope RX6 Plugin, NewBlue, Trend Micro AV
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      Canon XH-A1/ Canon HF-G30, GoPro Hero3 Black, Edit @1920 50p HQ preset

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      • #18
        Originally posted by pjsssss View Post
        Have you guys tried Squeeze at all?
        No is it good or better?
        I7-6900K, X99 Taichi, Geforce GTX 1070, Corsair RM850X, Corsair H100 IV2, Windows 10, Edius WG 9.30

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        • #19
          OK this seems to be the best so far
          Take the HDV 1440x1080 to CanopusHQ
          Bring into Procoder 3, on the Source Advanced settings add Circular Blur filter with a setting of .4
          On the TARGET DVD setting, in Advanced Add the following filters
          709 to 601 Color Correction
          Sharpen Filter, Radius of Blur 2.7, Blend 0.25, Threshold for smoothness det 16, Use your mouse wheel on the setting for small increments
          Looks good and the cost is zero
          It also works on SD DV footage
          Regards Barry
          Last edited by Bluetongue; 02-23-2008, 07:43 AM.
          Win 10HP, EDIUS WG9.4, HD Spark, Boris RED 5, VMW6, Authorworks 6, Bluff Titler, VisTitler 2.8, NEAT 3/4, Mercalli 2/4, Vitascene, Izotope RX6 Plugin, NewBlue, Trend Micro AV
          GB GA-X58A-UD3R MB, i7 [email protected], 12G 1600mhz Mem, Samsung EVO-250G SSD, 3x2T RAID, GTX 970W OC, 2x24 inch LG Monitors
          Canon XH-A1/ Canon HF-G30, GoPro Hero3 Black, Edit @1920 50p HQ preset

          https://vimeo.com/user2157719/videos
          Laptop ASUS G752VT-GC060T Win 10HP, Edius WG8.53 Samsung M2 SSD 256G+1Tb HD,

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Bluetongue View Post
            This is a Problem that has been bugging me for some time and I have had some success by going outside Edius and Procoder but the solution is now available.
            To be able to do this you will need Procoder 3
            1: Export time line in Canopus HQ from EDIUS through Procoder to either 1920x1080 or 1440x1080
            2: Import the file into Procoder and in the advanced section of the Source add the Circular Blur filter with a preset of .25 for 1920 or .5 for 1440 video (Do not add this filter to the output)
            3: For the Target Add a DVD preset and the resulting file ends up sharper than not using the Blur filter.
            I have tried all the Blur filters and the Circular Blur works the best
            The Canopus HQ file has to be exported from the timeline as Procoder does not allow adding filters if the input is from Edius.
            I added the 1920 setting as this is what I had to use in the External Mpeg encoder in MSP 7 for the best results
            Regards Barry
            I think I have been saying something very similar for a long time now.
            I edit in a 1920x1080 preset anyway because I capture in 1920x1080. I have found that the less the encoder has to correct, the better the final image. I usually export to an uncompressed file for storage. This method allows me to encode through Procoder, as well as being able to bring the uncompressed file into Encore to use the H.264 codec. Encore does not handle Canopus files that well.
            Also, if I need to do bluray and DVD quickly, I can bring in the uncompressed file and it will be encoded within Encore for both versions at the same time during build. Granted the encoder is not a good as Procoder. But for a quick turn around, it works just fine.
            I have not tried the blur filter concept. I get very sharp images with just this method and adding the color space filter. I will try a test with the .25 filter to see if I can tell any difference.
            Jerry
            Six Gill DV
            www.sgdvtutorials.com
            If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

            Vistitle YouTube Channel
            https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVlxC8Am4qFbkXJRoPAnMQ/videos

            Windows 10 Pro up to v.1803 Tweaks for Edius Users
            http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


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            • #21
              Barry, I'll test your settings with EX1 1920x1080 HQ footage, I have component out from NX to HD Tube monitor, this really shows the detail of what is going on, unlike any flat panel.

              will report back.

              Paul
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              • #22
                Jerry what camera do you have? does your camera record 1920X1080 or 1440X1080 and you just captured as 1920X1080 and edit on 1920X1080 project?

                Originally posted by Jerry View Post
                I think I have been saying something very similar for a long time now.
                I edit in a 1920x1080 preset anyway because I capture in 1920x1080. I have found that the less the encoder has to correct, the better the final image. I usually export to an uncompressed file for storage. This method allows me to encode through Procoder, as well as being able to bring the uncompressed file into Encore to use the H.264 codec. Encore does not handle Canopus files that well.
                Also, if I need to do bluray and DVD quickly, I can bring in the uncompressed file and it will be encoded within Encore for both versions at the same time during build. Granted the encoder is not a good as Procoder. But for a quick turn around, it works just fine.
                I have not tried the blur filter concept. I get very sharp images with just this method and adding the color space filter. I will try a test with the .25 filter to see if I can tell any difference.
                I7-6900K, X99 Taichi, Geforce GTX 1070, Corsair RM850X, Corsair H100 IV2, Windows 10, Edius WG 9.30

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Khoi Pham View Post
                  Jerry what camera do you have? does your camera record 1920X1080 or 1440X1080 and you just captured as 1920X1080 and edit on 1920X1080 project?
                  I have the Canon XH-A1 and it records at 1440 but I capture at 1920 for the square pixel.
                  I think that is the key though. Starting your encode from that square pixel
                  reduces a lot of artifacting. At least in my case.

                  I was going to rush out and get the EX1, but, I want to see what is offered up at NAB. I would really like to have all of the stuff on the EX1 with an interchangeable lens.
                  Jerry
                  Jerry
                  Six Gill DV
                  www.sgdvtutorials.com
                  If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

                  Vistitle YouTube Channel
                  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVlxC8Am4qFbkXJRoPAnMQ/videos

                  Windows 10 Pro up to v.1803 Tweaks for Edius Users
                  http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


                  Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, NZXT Z63, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, 2TB Sabrent M.2 NVME, BM MINI MONITOR 4K, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Dual LG 27GK65S-B 144Hz monitors, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
                  Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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                  • #24
                    Ok thanks, I will try that and see.
                    Take care.
                    I7-6900K, X99 Taichi, Geforce GTX 1070, Corsair RM850X, Corsair H100 IV2, Windows 10, Edius WG 9.30

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