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    Hi. I'm getting a new computer and it's going to have Windows XP Professional x64 Edition so I can use more memory. Right now I'm using edius pro 3.30, procoder 2, and the advc-500. Will they all work with my new computer? I mostly use procoder 2 to change mpg files into avi files, then use edius pro to edit the avi files. I also sometimes use the advc-500 to send avi files to my computer, then set edius to generic OHCI input, so I can use edius to capture the video. Would I have to get a more recent version of edius or procoder to be compatible with Windows XP Professional x64 Edition?

    Thanks

  • #2
    There is no x64 support at this time.
    Steve
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    • #3
      It seems that some are running Edius Pro 4.* under Windows XP 64bit. But only in OHCI mode, no hardware! Since the ADVC is an external OHCI tethered device, I would guess that it would work fine. It is also SD only so I am assuming that you are not doing any HD.
      George Dame
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      • #4
        Thanks for the quick replies. I'm not running any HD stuff, but after reading your replies it kindof feels like even if I upgrade to Edius Pro 4 there's a chance there might be some unanticipated glitches. Not sure what to do at this point. I guess I could take the computer back to the computer store, buy the regular xp professional and get them to redo the computer, drivers, etc. I was hoping to use the 4 gig of memory but based on my past computing experiences I think I'd rather waste a few hundred $$ than deal with the unknown, because I don't enjoy spending time troubleshooting computer problems.
        I do have one other related question though. If I drag a huge avi file into edius, say 5 gigabytes, how is it that I can drag the slider from the beginning of the clip to the end of the clip without edius stopping and waiting for the rest of the file to load into memory? My current computer only has 2 gig of memory so the whole 5 gig file can't be in memory, some has to remain on the harddrive. So let's say that my computer loads 1.5 gig of the 5 gig file into memory. If i start to drag the slider from the beginning of the clip, once the slider reaches the end of the 1.5 gig that's loaded into memory, wouldn't edius have to stall while it waits for another 1.5 gig of that file to be loaded into memory? I mean I'm glad that it doesn't, but I don't get it.. maybe there is no advantage to going over 2 gig of memory when editing videos? Thanks

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        • #5
          Originally posted by number88 View Post
          Thanks for the quick replies. I'm not running any HD stuff, but after reading your replies it kindof feels like even if I upgrade to Edius Pro 4 there's a chance there might be some unanticipated glitches. Not sure what to do at this point. I guess I could take the computer back to the computer store, buy the regular xp professional and get them to redo the computer, drivers, etc. I was hoping to use the 4 gig of memory but based on my past computing experiences I think I'd rather waste a few hundred $$ than deal with the unknown, because I don't enjoy spending time troubleshooting computer problems.
          I do have one other related question though. If I drag a huge avi file into edius, say 5 gigabytes, how is it that I can drag the slider from the beginning of the clip to the end of the clip without edius stopping and waiting for the rest of the file to load into memory? My current computer only has 2 gig of memory so the whole 5 gig file can't be in memory, some has to remain on the harddrive. So let's say that my computer loads 1.5 gig of the 5 gig file into memory. If i start to drag the slider from the beginning of the clip, once the slider reaches the end of the 1.5 gig that's loaded into memory, wouldn't edius have to stall while it waits for another 1.5 gig of that file to be loaded into memory? I mean I'm glad that it doesn't, but I don't get it.. maybe there is no advantage to going over 2 gig of memory when editing videos? Thanks
          You may be able to load the 32 bit version of XP Pro from your 64bit copy. Try making a dual boot system!

          Who told you that any video file that is loaded into Edius is residing in RAM Memory? That is false! You most certainly are reading the file directly from the hard drive when you scrub the timeline in Edius.

          Actually, there is very little need for more than 2GB of memory in a Windows XP Pro system. Only for certain applications could you ever need more than 2GB. In fact you may even take a step backwards in performance!

          My recommendation, Go back to 32 bit XP, leave 2GB ram on your mainboard, pay more attention to compatiable video cards and enjoy working in Edius under a supported configuration. Sounds to me like you got an IT server guy designing your editing system!
          George Dame
          Grass Valley / Canopus System Integrator - Nearly 13 Years
          Providing Systems, Onsite Delivery, Support & Training Services Nationwide
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          • #6
            Originally posted by gdame View Post
            You may be able to load the 32 bit version of XP Pro from your 64bit copy. Try making a dual boot system!
            Thanks. I thought of a dual boot but then the main reason I wanted the 64 bit was to have access to more memory for video editing so I guess I'll just have the computer redone with the usual xp version.


            Originally posted by gdame View Post
            Who told you that any video file that is loaded into Edius is residing in RAM Memory? That is false! You most certainly are reading the file directly from the hard drive when you scrub the timeline in Edius.
            I just assumed the files would be loaded into memory for faster execution. I'm very suprised that it's possible to smoothly scrub thru a file while reading it from the harddrive. Well, that's good then.

            Originally posted by gdame View Post
            Actually, there is very little need for more than 2GB of memory in a Windows XP Pro system. Only for certain applications could you ever need more than 2GB. In fact you may even take a step backwards in performance!

            My recommendation, Go back to 32 bit XP, leave 2GB ram on your mainboard, pay more attention to compatiable video cards and enjoy working in Edius under a supported configuration. Sounds to me like you got an IT server guy designing your editing system!

            I already have two 2 gig sticks of ram installed so might as well leave it like that. But will go back to 32 bit xp.

            I just wanted a new fast computer, so asked the computer store to put together what I thought would be the best configuration, using the new QX9650 cpu with nvidia 8800 GTX graphics card, 4 one terabyte drives and 4 gigs of ram, so they used the 64 bit version to take advantage of the ram. BTW, is the nvidia 8800 GTX graphics card fine to use with edius? I was thinking of getting a second computer, so if the nvidia doesn't work well with edius, I could have the second one made with a different graphics card and use the nvidia one mainly for just playing back the video.
            Thanks.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by number88 View Post
              Thanks. I thought of a dual boot but then the main reason I wanted the 64 bit was to have access to more memory for video editing so I guess I'll just have the computer redone with the usual xp version.




              I just assumed the files would be loaded into memory for faster execution. I'm very suprised that it's possible to smoothly scrub thru a file while reading it from the harddrive. Well, that's good then.




              I already have two 2 gig sticks of ram installed so might as well leave it like that. But will go back to 32 bit xp.

              I just wanted a new fast computer, so asked the computer store to put together what I thought would be the best configuration, using the new QX9650 cpu with nvidia 8800 GTX graphics card, 4 one terabyte drives and 4 gigs of ram, so they used the 64 bit version to take advantage of the ram. BTW, is the nvidia 8800 GTX graphics card fine to use with edius? I was thinking of getting a second computer, so if the nvidia doesn't work well with edius, I could have the second one made with a different graphics card and use the nvidia one mainly for just playing back the video.
              Thanks.
              Get yourself a Quadro FX1500 or FX1700 or higher if you want. Repurpose that 8800 for your secondary machine.

              Do a search on the 8800 and save me and you a lot of thread :) LOL

              BTW, that 4GB will be fine and you will only see around 2.5GB.
              George Dame
              Grass Valley / Canopus System Integrator - Nearly 13 Years
              Providing Systems, Onsite Delivery, Support & Training Services Nationwide
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              • #8
                Originally posted by gdame View Post
                Get yourself a Quadro FX1500 or FX1700 or higher if you want. Repurpose that 8800 for your secondary machine.

                Do a search on the 8800 and save me and you a lot of thread :) LOL

                BTW, that 4GB will be fine and you will only see around 2.5GB.
                Ok, thanks for all the quick replies.

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                • #9
                  I'd install x86 (32-bit) Windows XP on the system in parallel with the 64-bit version. That way when everything you use is 64-bit happy, you can move over to the x64 OS. Of course you'll still have to reinstall the apps and such.

                  AFAIK the x64 install CD doesn't let you install x86, so you'll need the 32-bit Windows XP disc to install 32-bit Windows (and the license key, of course).

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                  • #10
                    Ok thanks for the tip. I assume it's best to make separate partitions for each operating system, however I still might need to install different drivers for such things as the sound card, printer, video card, etc. and i like to keep things very simple. The most difficult thing my computer does is edit videos using edius and I have to use regular xp with edius. Therefore I can't see any reason I'd be using 64 bit xp for anything so I'll just go with regular xp. If/when edius can work with 64 bit xp I guess I could install it at that time, to access more memory, and then I'd get rid of the regular xp. Thanks for all the help. I'm surprised to get so much help and so quick!
                    Now I'm going to do a bit more searching on what video card to use. I bought the nvidia 8800gtx card and from reading thru the posts here I see some people seem to do ok with it...however I can see from the advice and other posts that the quadro line is better and I might have problems with the 8800gtx. The motherboard is asus P5N-T and I see the receipt says I have ddr2 ram. This page http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_11761.html shows the Quadro FX 1700 uses DDR2 ram, with most of the rest using GDDR3. If the motherboard uses ddr2 ram should I get a video card that uses the same? Basically all I do with edius is capture from the advc-500, chop up SD avi files with some transitions, replace some sound with wav files, and maybe add a few subtitles. So not sure which video card to use. I'll keep searching thru the posts to help me decide.


                    Originally posted by GrassValley_BH View Post
                    I'd install x86 (32-bit) Windows XP on the system in parallel with the 64-bit version. That way when everything you use is 64-bit happy, you can move over to the x64 OS. Of course you'll still have to reinstall the apps and such.

                    AFAIK the x64 install CD doesn't let you install x86, so you'll need the 32-bit Windows XP disc to install 32-bit Windows (and the license key, of course).

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                    • #11
                      If you could do me a favor and let me know how you make out on this? I am thinking about doing this myself I relised I only have about 5 apps I use in my editi system and if I can get them to run on Win 64 id like the memory boost too.
                      Randy

                      Asus sabertooth MB Z97 16 gigs of ram SSD system and edit drives Nvidia GTX-660 video card

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by rando View Post
                        If you could do me a favor and let me know how you make out on this? I am thinking about doing this myself I relised I only have about 5 apps I use in my editi system and if I can get them to run on Win 64 id like the memory boost too.
                        Hi Rando. I wish I could help but I already decided to go with regular xp because I don't like spending time troubleshooting glitches. I'll just save the xp 64 bit version to put on another computer which won't have edius installed.

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                        • #13
                          Ok, after much reading thru the forum I decided to try the 8800gtx since it's already in my computer. Then if I have issues I can just get a quadro card. Since I only use edius pro and procoder for editing, without any other programs, I think the chances are good with the 8800gtx. First I'll have to take the computer back to get the xp 64 bit version removed and regular xp professional installed. While I'm there I'll ask if they can take out the 4 gig of ram and instead install 2 gig of corsair ram, to help ensure stability. Thanks for all the help and advice!

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                          QX9650 3.0GHz 12MB 1333FSB 775
                          A-Data 4GB DDR2 800 Dual Kit (2 x 2 GB)
                          4 x western digital 1 TB S-ATA (WD10EACS)
                          LITEON 20x20 DVDRW SATA LH-20A1S12
                          ASUS EN8800GTX/HTDP/758M video card
                          Creative Labs X-Fi Fatality sound card
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                          • #14
                            Ok, my new computer is a huge source of frustration as it often crashes, giving me the "IRQL NOT LESS OR EQUAL" etc message, then it restarts...this is with no programs added, at various random times. I did a bit of searching and some people have found the ASUS P5N-T-DX motherboard to be very unstable so looking around here I see George (gdame) recomends the asus P5K64 WS so I'm going to ask the computer store to send mine back and get that one instead.

                            ...maybe I should also ask them if they could buy back the memory and video card for half price or whatever they offer and get the stuff George recomends...2 gigs of 1333 OCZ memory and Quadro FX1500. I would lose $$$ but I want to be happy with the end result.

                            then I got to thinking, my hobby is collecting video clips and having them play back at random, but I currently only collect clips from dvds because the quality is better than tv...however, a few days ago I got a hd tv and am starting to notice some pictures are looking very nice. Can I get a computer that can capture that 1080i HDTV signal by way of the hdmi cable coming out of my shaw HD pvr box? If it's possible, I guess it would involve adding some kind of capture card with hdmi input, plus upgrading my edius pro 3? I guess I'm being lazy asking this without looking around more first, but it's about 2:30 am and I've had a rough weekend working with this new computer which I'm going to take back tomorrow, and I'd like to have a better idea what I'd like before I take it back. Anyway, I'll look around a bit some more tomorrow. Thanks

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                            • #15
                              Hi,

                              1) Remove the Sound card and see if that changes anything. if not
                              2) Remove 3 of your (video) hard drives and see if it still gives that error when using a single hard drive. Do you have a RAID card installed?

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