MAC equivalent to Edius?

[majormauser]

It's possible to speculate anything but I would like to see GV release a next-generation board similar to the Blackmagic eclipse with a single PCI express bus connector card leading to a smart break-out-box with a similar array of connections but including a Pegasus-like hardware encoder/decoder for Canopus HQ codec. Imagine that with HDMI, HD-SDI, component analog and audio etc....that would be so hot in a new Mac Pro. Can I have one for NAB please?

Jim

Or... I know this is sacrilege.

Edius could extend its support more to standard PCI-E and PCI- X Cards Like BlackMagic and AJA that have been already created.

[Jim N]

It's possible to speculate anything but I would like to see GV release a next-generation board similar to the Blackmagic eclipse with a single PCI express bus connector card leading to a smart break-out-box with a similar array of connections but including a Pegasus-like hardware encoder/decoder for Canopus HQ codec. Imagine that with HDMI, HD-SDI, component analog and audio etc....that would be so hot in a new Mac Pro. Can I have one for NAB please?

Jim

[Roy Colquitt]

I believe Apple doesn't have Quad Core Mac Pro's anymore...

The Quad Core is still there, but it's a single Quad Core CPU now. Doesn't look like a real good buy, relatively--I think the second CPU costs more as individual purchase than the configuration price difference. I'd bet the vast majority bite off the extra $500 even when it's tough.

[STORMDAVE]

Thanks for your quick reply. I was afraid of that. However, what will the RT be with the Mac Pro (2) Dual Core Intels?

Phil

I believe Apple doesn't have Quad Core Mac Pro's anymore, they are all 8 cores stock, even the cheapest one. But these machines are really really fast, top of the crop at the moment for Xeon workstations. You could do it like me, get a Mac Pro, then add an NX Express boardset and you're good to go.

Unfortunately you will have zero support from Grass Valley and it will be harder to troubleshoot your problems since Mac's are not supported by GV...so you will do this at your own risk.

As far as the Storm, you might be able to eBay it and get some money back, or just leave it in your current PC and use it as a DV capture machine.

[Roy Colquitt]

Thanks for your quick reply. I was afraid of that. However, what will the RT be with the Mac Pro (2) Dual Core Intels?

Phil

I guess since you are using a Storm, we're talking about DV. Edius RT with OHCI is very good on any current multi-core computer, so that is the case with the MacPro (and dual-booting with Bootcamp). The main thing that you're missing is sync between the computer display and your external display--Edius through OHCI is out by a disturbing amount. You definitely have to adjust that part of your workflow.

[ptrafey]

Thanks for your quick reply. I was afraid of that. However, what will the RT be with the Mac Pro (2) Dual Core Intels?

Phil

[Roy Colquitt]

Will the storm card work in the MAC?

Phil

No. No PCI slots.

[ptrafey]

Will the storm card work in the MAC?

Phil

[tingsern]

majormauser,

Are you using just straight Edius Pro?, or are you using Canopus hardware to go with it to get better RT performance?

What you're saying is interesting to me. Particularly because I've been a staunch PC/Edius user but decided to dabble with MAC since my client base seems to be more that way. I love how many apps run well with it (AE, PS CS3, etc.) but have found the video side of things to be wanting. Premiere CS3 for instance can't even keep sync with more than 10 minutes of video. What junk. Anyhow, maybe I would be farther ahead to stick with Edius Pro / Bootcamp. I'm cutting a HD job on it at the moment and it's very responsive. I'm running 8 cores and 6GB of ram. Edius sees it all.

Thanks!

Dave

Canopus H/W only works in SD. The DV h/w codecs are only in Standard Definition. Once you are in High Definition, it is the RAW CPU power that handles everything.

[STORMDAVE]

Did you mean NFS?

No. The network drives are on a Windows machine and are formatted with NTFS. When you share drives out of Windows (Or from a Mac) it uses SMB (Samba, Windows) and any file that's on the Windows machine can be seen by the other windows machines in the network via an IP.

[THoff]

Since network drives do not necesseraly have to have a specific file system (They are NTFS)

Did you mean NFS?

[STORMDAVE]

StormDave, not to go off topic, but how do you share your drive volumes between Bootcamp and MAC? I've found that MAC volumes are off limits to Bootcamp, except for USB drives. And from the MAC side, NTFS volumes are not recognized. What a mess.

Thanks!

Dave

I use a gigabit connection and my Windows machine is used as a server and edit station. DV works flawlessly, so does a few streams of Canopus HQ. I do have an internal drive in the Mac and I only use that for OSX and After Effects projects.

Since network drives do not necesseraly have to have a specific file system (They are NTFS) you have no worries as these drives will be seen by the network and files can be shared between Mac's and PC's.

I do use the Paragon NTFS driver as mentioned in this thread, and it works ok...but I wouldn't trust it for work. I also have MacDrive on the Windows side, so just for copying files.

[majormauser]

Got the Mac Pro 2.8, 8 Core Up and running finally!

Everything works great so far. Edius sees all 8 Processors. I have the ATI 2600 XT Card.

Other than that I am really new to Edius so I have no Idea what to expect. But It is quite a bit faster than my MBP and I can run my 1920x1200 monitor at full resolution. The MBP has a nasty problem of only running well on the Macs Display while the EXTERNAL Display is very low res. and just a copy of the main display.

I'm Happy.

[majormauser]

majormauser,

Are you using just straight Edius Pro?, or are you using Canopus hardware to go with it to get better RT performance?

What you're saying is interesting to me. Particularly because I've been a staunch PC/Edius user but decided to dabble with MAC since my client base seems to be more that way. I love how many apps run well with it (AE, PS CS3, etc.) but have found the video side of things to be wanting. Premiere CS3 for instance can't even keep sync with more than 10 minutes of video. What junk. Anyhow, maybe I would be farther ahead to stick with Edius Pro / Bootcamp. I'm cutting a HD job on it at the moment and it's very responsive. I'm running 8 cores and 6GB of ram. Edius sees it all.

StormDave, not to go off topic, but how do you share your drive volumes between Bootcamp and MAC? I've found that MAC volumes are off limits to Bootcamp, except for USB drives. And from the MAC side, NTFS volumes are not recognized. What a mess.

Thanks!

Dave

Sorry not to steal a question But I use Paragon NTFS Mac at work and its amazing it just lets you copy back and forth to an NTFS formated Drive.

http://www.paragon-software.com/home/ntfs-mac/


Chris
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What my Twitter would say - Pacing around waiting for Fedex to Deliver my Mac Pro today....the wait!

[Streetwise]

majormauser,

Are you using just straight Edius Pro?, or are you using Canopus hardware to go with it to get better RT performance?

What you're saying is interesting to me. Particularly because I've been a staunch PC/Edius user but decided to dabble with MAC since my client base seems to be more that way. I love how many apps run well with it (AE, PS CS3, etc.) but have found the video side of things to be wanting. Premiere CS3 for instance can't even keep sync with more than 10 minutes of video. What junk. Anyhow, maybe I would be farther ahead to stick with Edius Pro / Bootcamp. I'm cutting a HD job on it at the moment and it's very responsive. I'm running 8 cores and 6GB of ram. Edius sees it all.

StormDave, not to go off topic, but how do you share your drive volumes between Bootcamp and MAC? I've found that MAC volumes are off limits to Bootcamp, except for USB drives. And from the MAC side, NTFS volumes are not recognized. What a mess.

Thanks!

Dave