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    I've been using Edius for some time now but recently have acquired a MACPRO that I'd like to set up as well. Is there anything out there comparable or equivalent to Edius that runs under OSX? FCP perhaps? I really dislike Premiere on the MAC.

    Thanks.

  • #2
    You should be able to run Edius on the Mac, either by installing Windows XP on it, or by using Bootcamp.

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    • #3
      Exactly, Bootcamp (and dual booting into XP) is about the only solution available.

      Last I knew, Parallels 3.0 still had issues running EDIUS directly within Mac OS (lack of full DirectX support).

      Essentially, if you don't want to leave Mac OS' surrounds, and refuse to use CS3, FCP is about your only solution.

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      • #4
        Actually, I do use Bootcamp and Parallels now with Edius. Unfortunately, Parallels only sees one CPU and a max of 512 ram. And yes, you can hear audio, but can't see the video (no DirectX yet). So Bootcamp is the only choice for me. But I'm looking to stay inside of OSX because that's where a lot of my other video tools are. Thanks for the input.

        Dave

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        • #5
          Don't use Parallels...It's only ok for apps such as MS Word, etc.

          I love OSX too, but I boot to Windows so I can use Edius. All of my Adobe applications reside on the OSX side, just to let you know.

          As Brandon stated, your only option is FCP or AVID under OSX.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by STORMDAVE View Post
            Don't use Parallels...It's only ok for apps such as MS Word, etc.

            I love OSX too, but I boot to Windows so I can use Edius. All of my Adobe applications reside on the OSX side, just to let you know.

            As Brandon stated, your only option is FCP or AVID under OSX.
            I had good luck with Vmware Fusion. But the Monitors on the top (left right) do not show video playback all the time. Needs a little more love I guess. As far as Bootcamp goes It works great on my Macbook Pro.

            Please note the only worthwhile editing programs on the Mac are FC and Avid and neither are anything close to the Realtime performance you get when running Edius. I have been a staunch Mac user for a few years and I'm moving to Edius. Mike D came by and did a demo for us a week ago and I was in awe of Edius's simplicity and power. I will have my Mac Pro tomorrow and will setup the demo on it to test it out. I will post more in a tread tomorrow after I get everything setup.
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            Edius 4.6 Broadcast, FCP Studio, MacPro 8 Core, (Currently using 8800GT) ATI 2600

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            • #7
              Quick Example -

              Just Tried to pull a key in FCP with the Built in Chroma Keyer. 10 Min in I am still unable to pull a Key perfectly. Last night in Edius I pulled a very usable key by just applying the Edius Chroma Keyer to my Clips. How much time did it take me to do this? About 2 seconds. And the feedback on FC is not in real time so its a bunch of try .... then see. On Edius its Realtime so you see the Key as its changing.
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              Edius 4.6 Broadcast, FCP Studio, MacPro 8 Core, (Currently using 8800GT) ATI 2600

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              • #8
                majormauser,

                Are you using just straight Edius Pro?, or are you using Canopus hardware to go with it to get better RT performance?

                What you're saying is interesting to me. Particularly because I've been a staunch PC/Edius user but decided to dabble with MAC since my client base seems to be more that way. I love how many apps run well with it (AE, PS CS3, etc.) but have found the video side of things to be wanting. Premiere CS3 for instance can't even keep sync with more than 10 minutes of video. What junk. Anyhow, maybe I would be farther ahead to stick with Edius Pro / Bootcamp. I'm cutting a HD job on it at the moment and it's very responsive. I'm running 8 cores and 6GB of ram. Edius sees it all.

                StormDave, not to go off topic, but how do you share your drive volumes between Bootcamp and MAC? I've found that MAC volumes are off limits to Bootcamp, except for USB drives. And from the MAC side, NTFS volumes are not recognized. What a mess.

                Thanks!

                Dave

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Streetwise View Post
                  majormauser,

                  Are you using just straight Edius Pro?, or are you using Canopus hardware to go with it to get better RT performance?

                  What you're saying is interesting to me. Particularly because I've been a staunch PC/Edius user but decided to dabble with MAC since my client base seems to be more that way. I love how many apps run well with it (AE, PS CS3, etc.) but have found the video side of things to be wanting. Premiere CS3 for instance can't even keep sync with more than 10 minutes of video. What junk. Anyhow, maybe I would be farther ahead to stick with Edius Pro / Bootcamp. I'm cutting a HD job on it at the moment and it's very responsive. I'm running 8 cores and 6GB of ram. Edius sees it all.

                  StormDave, not to go off topic, but how do you share your drive volumes between Bootcamp and MAC? I've found that MAC volumes are off limits to Bootcamp, except for USB drives. And from the MAC side, NTFS volumes are not recognized. What a mess.

                  Thanks!

                  Dave
                  Sorry not to steal a question But I use Paragon NTFS Mac at work and its amazing it just lets you copy back and forth to an NTFS formated Drive.

                  http://www.paragon-software.com/home/ntfs-mac/


                  Chris
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                  What my Twitter would say - Pacing around waiting for Fedex to Deliver my Mac Pro today....the wait!
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                  Edius 4.6 Broadcast, FCP Studio, MacPro 8 Core, (Currently using 8800GT) ATI 2600

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                  • #10
                    Got the Mac Pro 2.8, 8 Core Up and running finally!

                    Everything works great so far. Edius sees all 8 Processors. I have the ATI 2600 XT Card.

                    Other than that I am really new to Edius so I have no Idea what to expect. But It is quite a bit faster than my MBP and I can run my 1920x1200 monitor at full resolution. The MBP has a nasty problem of only running well on the Macs Display while the EXTERNAL Display is very low res. and just a copy of the main display.

                    I'm Happy.
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                    Edius 4.6 Broadcast, FCP Studio, MacPro 8 Core, (Currently using 8800GT) ATI 2600

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Streetwise View Post

                      StormDave, not to go off topic, but how do you share your drive volumes between Bootcamp and MAC? I've found that MAC volumes are off limits to Bootcamp, except for USB drives. And from the MAC side, NTFS volumes are not recognized. What a mess.

                      Thanks!

                      Dave
                      I use a gigabit connection and my Windows machine is used as a server and edit station. DV works flawlessly, so does a few streams of Canopus HQ. I do have an internal drive in the Mac and I only use that for OSX and After Effects projects.

                      Since network drives do not necesseraly have to have a specific file system (They are NTFS) you have no worries as these drives will be seen by the network and files can be shared between Mac's and PC's.

                      I do use the Paragon NTFS driver as mentioned in this thread, and it works ok...but I wouldn't trust it for work. I also have MacDrive on the Windows side, so just for copying files.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by STORMDAVE View Post
                        Since network drives do not necesseraly have to have a specific file system (They are NTFS)
                        Did you mean NFS?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by THoff View Post
                          Did you mean NFS?
                          No. The network drives are on a Windows machine and are formatted with NTFS. When you share drives out of Windows (Or from a Mac) it uses SMB (Samba, Windows) and any file that's on the Windows machine can be seen by the other windows machines in the network via an IP.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Streetwise View Post
                            majormauser,

                            Are you using just straight Edius Pro?, or are you using Canopus hardware to go with it to get better RT performance?

                            What you're saying is interesting to me. Particularly because I've been a staunch PC/Edius user but decided to dabble with MAC since my client base seems to be more that way. I love how many apps run well with it (AE, PS CS3, etc.) but have found the video side of things to be wanting. Premiere CS3 for instance can't even keep sync with more than 10 minutes of video. What junk. Anyhow, maybe I would be farther ahead to stick with Edius Pro / Bootcamp. I'm cutting a HD job on it at the moment and it's very responsive. I'm running 8 cores and 6GB of ram. Edius sees it all.

                            Thanks!

                            Dave
                            Canopus H/W only works in SD. The DV h/w codecs are only in Standard Definition. Once you are in High Definition, it is the RAW CPU power that handles everything.
                            TingSern
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                            Edius 9.4 Pro, Lenovo P72 workstation laptop, 64GB RAM, Xeon CPU, Windows 10 Pro (64 bits), 2 x 2TB Samsung M2.NVME and 1 x 4TB Samsung SSD internal. Panasonic UX180 camera, Blackmagic 4K Pocket Cinema, Blackmagic Pocket Cinema

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                            • #15
                              Will the storm card work in the MAC?

                              Phil
                              Philip Rafey
                              New Leaf Films
                              www.newleaffilms.org

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