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  • #16
    I am still looking for that application that will let me catalog files and change names/paths after the capture process as easily Scenalyzer.
    G'day Phillip.
    For anything I need to do regarding changing file names and changing paths, I use explorer only. I rename the file there and if I change the file path, I do it there. I then simply update the relevant Edius project when I re-open it. That's about it for me.

    Cataloging....well, not sure what you are doing here since I don't use Sceneanalyser to know. But it all happens within explorer for me, then I update paths and bin folders in Edius.

    As you say, Edius can do the splits for you, and you can rename the files there. If you plan well, you may get your catalogue regime happening there at the same time (during the capture and renaming process.)

    For sure, the batch capture utility in Edius could use some improvements. It's there, but a clunky layout/process at the moment

    HTH.
    peterC
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    Edius 3 v3.62 beta / DVRexRT cards
    (Please don't throw stones, it works!)
    Edius 9 v3

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    • #17
      Originally posted by peterC View Post
      G'day Phillip.
      For anything I need to do regarding changing file names and changing paths, I use explorer only. I rename the file there and if I change the file path, I do it there. I then simply update the relevant Edius project when I re-open it. That's about it for me.

      Cataloging....well, not sure what you are doing here since I don't use Sceneanalyser to know. But it all happens within explorer for me, then I update paths and bin folders in Edius.

      As you say, Edius can do the splits for you, and you can rename the files there. If you plan well, you may get your catalogue regime happening there at the same time (during the capture and renaming process.)

      For sure, the batch capture utility in Edius could use some improvements. It's there, but a clunky layout/process at the moment

      HTH.

      The beauty of Scenalyzer was you got a small filmstrip of 5-10 thumbnails from scenes in the clip and you could see the content. It also had some very effecient ways to rename files. For instance I will make a dance montage of dancing clips at a wedding reception. I can highlight 50 clips at once, name one of them "dancing" and they will all get the same name. When you commit the changes to disk it will automatically name the clips "dancing####" with a sequencial numeric number. This makes it easy to catalog a bunch of similar clips and helps keep track of them when editing. You can also highlight a bunch of clips at once and change the path all at one time.

      You can even rename clips while they are being captured but I know that is a feature I will have to live without.

      Just a few functions that speed the process in Scenalyzer.
      Main System. MSI G33m Motherboard, Intel Q6600 CPU, 2GB Ram, GeForce 9500GT, 7200rpm System drive. WinXP. Lots of external eSATA drives.

      Laptop. Sony Vaio. CPU- i7-Gen 3, 8gb RAM, 1tbb 5400rpm hard drive, AMD GPU

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Philip View Post
        How hard is it for someone to create a utility that will just take any AVI file (MSDV, Canopus DV, or CanopusHQ or even Cineform avi) and show some random thumbnails in a filmstrip. From there offer a simple easy way to change filenames and paths. I am not a programmer or I would figure it out myself but if it was that easy for Scenalyzer to accomplish it in DV why can't someone make a similar app that works with Canopus HQ or even Cineform AVI files. They are still frame based just more data.

        I don't care if it will capture and upconvert on the fly. I can do that in Edius and use a 3rd party app to catalog the captured file.

        This app would be a huge hit and sell many copies.
        Excuse me, I was following this thread, do you know of the free Xnview? http://www.xnview.com

        It can extend Windows Explorer and lets me browse through my Edius HQ codec scene splits. Browsing is fast and as well as showing a preview on a sizable movie window it can move or copy stuff around like Explorer.
        Claire

        Edius 8.53 Workgroup, DVC Built i7 5960X 8 core Haswell-E Unlocked, Win10 Pro 64 bit, Gigabyte GA-X99-UD4, 32GB DDR4 RAM, RTX 2080 Ti 11GB, Decklink 4K Extreme 12G, TMPGEnc Movie Plug-in AVC, Eizo 31" ColorEdge CG319X HDR 4K monitor

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Philip View Post
          The beauty of Scenalyzer was you got a small filmstrip of 5-10 thumbnails from scenes in the clip and you could see the content. It also had some very effecient ways to rename files. For instance I will make a dance montage of dancing clips at a wedding reception. I can highlight 50 clips at once, name one of them "dancing" and they will all get the same name. When you commit the changes to disk it will automatically name the clips "dancing####" with a sequencial numeric number. This makes it easy to catalog a bunch of similar clips and helps keep track of them when editing. You can also highlight a bunch of clips at once and change the path all at one time.

          You can even rename clips while they are being captured but I know that is a feature I will have to live without.

          Just a few functions that speed the process in Scenalyzer.
          Phillip, certainly a lot of features you have noted here for Edius batch capture
          to have implemented. Hope it goes further and implementation in Edius happens.
          peterC
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          Edius 3 v3.62 beta / DVRexRT cards
          (Please don't throw stones, it works!)
          Edius 9 v3

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          • #20
            Another very useful feature in Scenalyzer, that I would like to see implemented in Edius, is the reporting of errors in the acquired DV stream. Having recently had to have a worn head drum replaced on a tape machine, the Scenalyzer warnings were the first indication I had that something was wrong. Otherwise, with today's efficient error correction mechanisms, drop-outs have to reach gross proportions before they are necessarily visible.
            Andrew Pinder
            www.chpv.co.uk
            Edius 9 with Blackmagic Intensity Pro 4k; Windows 10 (64 bit Pro); Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Pro; i9-9900K CPU; 32GB RAM;
            Asus GTX1060 graphics; RME Fireface800 audio; SATA RAID

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            • #21
              Claire that's a great freeby, thank you for sharing
              Roger D

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Claire View Post
                Excuse me, I was following this thread, do you know of the free Xnview? http://www.xnview.com

                It can extend Windows Explorer and lets me browse through my Edius HQ codec scene splits. Browsing is fast and as well as showing a preview on a sizable movie window it can move or copy stuff around like Explorer.
                I downloaded the xnview application and couldn't get any previews to work on HQ files. I got a control bar on the bottom for VCR type controls but now visible preview. Also what does the XnView extension for Explorer do. I have not got anything to work with the app. I'm still stuck with Edius capture solutions...not a pretty picture? :-(
                Main System. MSI G33m Motherboard, Intel Q6600 CPU, 2GB Ram, GeForce 9500GT, 7200rpm System drive. WinXP. Lots of external eSATA drives.

                Laptop. Sony Vaio. CPU- i7-Gen 3, 8gb RAM, 1tbb 5400rpm hard drive, AMD GPU

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                • #23
                  Philip, sorry the preview is not working for you, can't think why, graphics card issue? Dual monitor problem?

                  The way I browse my HDV captures is set it up with Explorer thus..

                  Options > System Integration > Add 'Browse with XnView' to context menu

                  Now when you are in Windows File Explorer you find this option on your right click menu. I find it quite fast to show the video thumbnails even with 1200 in a single folder and the little movie preview works well, but not for .m2t files, just AVI and QuickTime.
                  Claire

                  Edius 8.53 Workgroup, DVC Built i7 5960X 8 core Haswell-E Unlocked, Win10 Pro 64 bit, Gigabyte GA-X99-UD4, 32GB DDR4 RAM, RTX 2080 Ti 11GB, Decklink 4K Extreme 12G, TMPGEnc Movie Plug-in AVC, Eizo 31" ColorEdge CG319X HDR 4K monitor

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Claire View Post
                    Philip, sorry the preview is not working for you, can't think why, graphics card issue? Dual monitor problem?

                    The way I browse my HDV captures is set it up with Explorer thus..

                    Options > System Integration > Add 'Browse with XnView' to context menu

                    Now when you are in Windows File Explorer you find this option on your right click menu. I find it quite fast to show the video thumbnails even with 1200 in a single folder and the little movie preview works well, but not for .m2t files, just AVI and QuickTime.
                    Thanks for the tip. I have tried your suggestion and dug through the xnview forums as well looking for a solution and I still can see none of the video previews. I can hear and see the scroll bar of the preview player move but not see anything. Back to the drawing board for me I guess!
                    Main System. MSI G33m Motherboard, Intel Q6600 CPU, 2GB Ram, GeForce 9500GT, 7200rpm System drive. WinXP. Lots of external eSATA drives.

                    Laptop. Sony Vaio. CPU- i7-Gen 3, 8gb RAM, 1tbb 5400rpm hard drive, AMD GPU

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