Scenalyzer and HDV?

[Ulisse]

Hi, do you know or use Scenalyzer? Is it possible to use it with HDV?
Thanks

[Aristotelis]

I'm using the old freeware version and it works only for DV...So does the new one...
you can check it at http://www.scenalyzer.com/main.html

[Philip]

I have the same dilemma. I don't want to say bye to Scenalyzer. Best utility ever in my opinion. It doesn't work and I have emailed the creator and currently there are no plans to make it work with HDV. I was hoping I could just capture to a CanopusHQ file and then use Scenalyzer to name the avi's and catalog them. It won't recognize the HQ files either. I could live with that since the cataloging and naming functionality of the program is it's strongest asset.

There are a few other 3rd party apps that let you see a few thumbnails of an avi file and rename it easily. I haven't found one that works like I want though. The few I found are for cataloging photos but also work with AVI files. I think the one I found I liked the best was ACDSee (or something like that....I am on the road with no access to my main computer but I think that was the name.) It shows a single thumbnail of a clip with 4 small thumbnails from different points in the clip within the big thumbnail.

I also hear Adobe Bridge may be an alternative but you have to have the Production Suite or one of the newer Adobe apps to get it. I hope to try that soon.

[rando]

Scenalyzer and HDV

My issue is worse than that, I use a Mac to edit on in windows. I use Macdrive which Edius is incompatable with up to now I have been able to capture with scenealyzer and edit on Edius to dodge the compatability issue but with HDV I wont be able to do that anymore.

Randy

[STORMDAVE]

SCLive is probably the best small software that I ever paid for...I love it.

I did email the programmer and asked if there will be an HDV version, haven't heard back. I recommend that all SCLive users do the same and with enough requests he might do it.

http://www.scenalyzer.com/feedback.html

[Philip]

I emailed him about it once and I think he did respond to me. He said he had no plans to make an HDV version. The idea of the long GOP made it difficult to handle.

I would be happy if I could just capture with Edius and scene detection to the CanopusHQ and then open Scenalyzer and use it to catalog the HQ files since they are AVI files. It doesn't work with HQ files either. I could deal with that work around and be very happy. I would even pay for a new HD version if he would create it.

Any programmers out there......there is a huge market for this kind of utility.

[smartyarts]

I think, if GV would improve to the way Scenalyzer captures and organizes DV files with HDV files I would be a lot happier too...

[wolfgang]

Try AV-Cutty instead, it should work with the Canopus HQ codec (not with m2t material).

http://www.avcutty.de/english/index_download.htm

[LegalEyes]

can you tell me your work flow with "Scenalyzer"

Thanks

[leethomas]

I have not yet gone HDV, but am thinking about it. So, just to get this straight (and I am a SCLive user as well), you're telling me that there is not a program included as part of Edius that will capture and separate the clips in a similar fashion as SCLive...? If not, how are you guys doing that?

[GrassValley_MD]

If you go into Settings/application settings/ deck settings you will see several options for dividing files while capturing.

Check the one you want and uncheck the rest.


Mike

[Zorro]

If you go into Settings/application settings/ deck settings you will see several options for dividing files while capturing.

Maybe the most handy feature of SCLive is to split files (coming from a live or an analog source) during capture on the fly without losing a frame. I've already submitted this point to the 'feature request' section.

[Philip]

I have not yet gone HDV, but am thinking about it. So, just to get this straight (and I am a SCLive user as well), you're telling me that there is not a program included as part of Edius that will capture and separate the clips in a similar fashion as SCLive...? If not, how are you guys doing that?

Edius will split the clips in HDV or CanopusHQ based on Timecode but what it won't do is the easy cataloging and naming of files like Scenalyzer does. The cataloging ability and thumbnail previews of Scenalyzer will be greatly missed till someone finds a usable alternative for HD type files.

[aldigitalguy]

HDV Split

The best FREE capture tool out there for HDV is HDV Split. It is a utility for capturing HDV stream from your camcorder with scene splitting by timestamp and dropped-frames indicator. You can also split MPEG2 Trasnport Stream files captured earlier - new scenes are detected by date and time read from .m2t file.
From there you can use a watch folder to convert what you need to HQ. I love it.

Here is a link to it.

http://strony.aster.pl/paviko/hdvsplit.htm

[Philip]

The best FREE capture tool out there for HDV is HDV Split. It is a utility for capturing HDV stream from your camcorder with scene splitting by timestamp and dropped-frames indicator. You can also split MPEG2 Trasnport Stream files captured earlier - new scenes are detected by date and time read from .m2t file.
From there you can use a watch folder to convert what you need to HQ. I love it.

Here is a link to it.
http://strony.aster.pl/paviko/hdvsplit.htm

Ok...so I downloaded a copy of HDVSplit. Tell me what it does better than Edius capture tool. It captures and splits on the timecode change....so does Edius..... no benefit there.

It saves to a specified folder. Edius saves to the project folder....simple enough task to just move them after capture.... no benefit there

It can take one long m2t file and split it....no big deal...I don't forsee my self capturing a long m2t file and needing it split. If I capture with Edius I will use scene splitting there and not need to worry.

Other than the ability to split a previously captured file I see no benefit to HDVSplit from what Edius offers.

I am still looking for that application that will let me catalog files and change names/paths after the capture process as easily Scenalyzer.

I also tried AVCutty that someone else recommended and it was not any easier than Edius to deal with. How hard is it for someone to create a utility that will just take any AVI file (MSDV, Canopus DV, or CanopusHQ or even Cineform avi) and show some random thumbnails in a filmstrip. From there offer a simple easy way to change filenames and paths. I am not a programmer or I would figure it out myself but if it was that easy for Scenalyzer to accomplish it in DV why can't someone make a similar app that works with Canopus HQ or even Cineform AVI files. They are still frame based just more data.

I don't care if it will capture and upconvert on the fly. I can do that in Edius and use a 3rd party app to catalog the captured file.

This app would be a huge hit and sell many copies.