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  • nVidia 8800 GT compatibility question ??

    Happy Sunday all,
    Well it does seem as though there are different sets of opinions on the 8800GT video board. Mike0130 has good results with perfect overlay, Barry had enough problems to cause him to abandon the 8800 in favor of his ATI 2600 Pro, and PaulTV downloaded new drivers which cured the ills with his board. Typical electronic voodoo's! Soooo.. since I'm ordering all the components for our new editor tomorrow, I thought I'd inquire one last time to get any other opinions from you guys who are using the nVidia 8800 GT. Any further information would be much appreciate from anyone. Looks like a great board, but just like the KIA, looks may be deceiving!
    Have a great remainder of the weekend all!
    Alan

    PS. Building with Asus P5K Delux, QX9650 Quad 3.0gig, 4 Gigs 8500 Corsair, New LG BluRay, 1000W Antec PS.
    Alan J. Levi
    Director

    SYSTEM: ASUS P8Z77-VPro mobo, Intel 3770K CPU, 16 Gig Crucial 1866 RAM, Antec 1000W PS, EVGA nVidia 560Ti 1Gig Video, CoolerMaster CPU cooler, LG GGW-H20L BluRay DVD, SPARK card w/23" Samsung 1920x1080 Monitor, OCZ 240GB SSD boot in Swapable Tray & 3 WD Enterprise 1TB video RAID 5 HDD's. 4.5TB RAID 1 Outboard backups, Behringer2000 Audio Fader/Controller

  • #2
    Video Cards

    Hi,
    Just reading the thread on the cards and found it quite interesting, I use to use all the high end cards then changed over to the Quadro FX cards as they have full 4 point floating processors on them, I started with a quadro FX 4500 and now use the New Quadro FX 5600 card from NVidia, if you want speed and a Reliable card go for these ( they are very dear though ) One last thing the cards are not designed for gaming they are for editing, 3D, CAD, ect type of work. The Quadro cards run a complete different Architecture,
    all the 6200,6500, 7950, 8800, 8200, ect ect ect are for gamers only.
    Great if you want to play games all day...

    Cheers
    Steve
    Main system, Supermicro X8DAH+,Dual Xeon X5680 cpu's 24 cores,2x1400watt power supplys,SC747TG-R1400B-SQ Case,192GB 1333mhz ECC Registered ram,8 x 480GB Intel 520 SSD drives,Windows 7 64 bit ultimate, GTX 670 4GB ,2 x Sony BWU300S Blu-Ray burners, 1x Sony DVD burner,LSI 9266 Raid Controller with Cache vault & fast path Lic, ESI MayaE Audio,HD Spark,Blackmagic intensity Pro,TMPGenc 5,Episode Pro 6,Sorenson 9 Pro,Alcohol 120 V2, Edius 6.53,Dell 27"LCD,HD Spark, Powershield 3000VA UPS.

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    • #3
      Thanks for that Steve that is just what I am looking for, it is a pity this sort of info is not available on the manufacturers sites.
      This forum has to be the greatest concentration of information and help I have ever come across.
      One other observation, now with the ATI card Direct Draw now give me the greatest Real time not Direct 3D9 and it handles more filters.
      CPU usage has dropped from 20-25% on normal play and one or two filters to 11-15%, interesting, ATI must have a more efficient architecture
      Regards Barry
      Win 10HP, EDIUS WG9.4, HD Spark, Boris RED 5, VMW6, Authorworks 6, Bluff Titler, VisTitler 2.8, NEAT 3/4, Mercalli 2/4, Vitascene, Izotope RX6 Plugin, NewBlue, Trend Micro AV
      GB GA-X58A-UD3R MB, i7 [email protected], 12G 1600mhz Mem, Samsung EVO-250G SSD, 3x2T RAID, GTX 970W OC, 2x24 inch LG Monitors
      Canon XH-A1/ Canon HF-G30, GoPro Hero3 Black, Edit @1920 50p HQ preset

      https://vimeo.com/user2157719/videos
      Laptop ASUS G752VT-GC060T Win 10HP, Edius WG8.53 Samsung M2 SSD 256G+1Tb HD,

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      • #4
        Quadro FX

        No Problems Barry, I hope this did help you a bit, I didn't get to technical as you can read about them on the net, I will say though that you can pick up a Quadro FX 4500 which is still classed as a very high end card from Nvidia on EBay at a great price, these are new of course, anyway let me know how you go.

        Cheers
        Steve
        Main system, Supermicro X8DAH+,Dual Xeon X5680 cpu's 24 cores,2x1400watt power supplys,SC747TG-R1400B-SQ Case,192GB 1333mhz ECC Registered ram,8 x 480GB Intel 520 SSD drives,Windows 7 64 bit ultimate, GTX 670 4GB ,2 x Sony BWU300S Blu-Ray burners, 1x Sony DVD burner,LSI 9266 Raid Controller with Cache vault & fast path Lic, ESI MayaE Audio,HD Spark,Blackmagic intensity Pro,TMPGenc 5,Episode Pro 6,Sorenson 9 Pro,Alcohol 120 V2, Edius 6.53,Dell 27"LCD,HD Spark, Powershield 3000VA UPS.

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        • #5
          Hey Barry and Steve,

          What a bundle of info from you two, and I (as well as probably a lot of others) owe you for sharing such valuable info. As you observed, it would be nice to have this sort of info available to all on the forum, but thanks to you two - and again others as well - your personal expertise is invaluable. The value of these forums is immeasureable, and the sharing of info a learning process for us all. I can see where you're coming from, and definitely won't disagree with your observation - yet the price of the FX 5600 and 4500 are well beyond the reach of most of the video folks out there. I think most of us are trying to keep the boards in the $200-$350 price range for reasonable performance. Rolls Royce's are nice. But a Prius will also get us there, as long as they keep rolling the tires along the pavement rather smoothly! But you guys are the best. Thanks again!

          Cheers to you both.
          Alan
          Last edited by AJL14; 01-28-2008, 03:26 AM.
          Alan J. Levi
          Director

          SYSTEM: ASUS P8Z77-VPro mobo, Intel 3770K CPU, 16 Gig Crucial 1866 RAM, Antec 1000W PS, EVGA nVidia 560Ti 1Gig Video, CoolerMaster CPU cooler, LG GGW-H20L BluRay DVD, SPARK card w/23" Samsung 1920x1080 Monitor, OCZ 240GB SSD boot in Swapable Tray & 3 WD Enterprise 1TB video RAID 5 HDD's. 4.5TB RAID 1 Outboard backups, Behringer2000 Audio Fader/Controller

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          • #6
            Quadro FX Cards

            Hi Alan,
            you have just got to remember that these cards are very dear, Also a bit more info for you these cards are used by most of the 3D animation studios around the world for rendering out, this is because of the speed of them and the 4 point floating processors that they use, plus the architecture
            of the cards. ( BUT REMEMBER THEY ARE NOT GAMING CARDS ) they look the same, follow this link for more info on them http://www.nvidia.com/page/qfx_uhe.html

            Cheers
            Steve
            Main system, Supermicro X8DAH+,Dual Xeon X5680 cpu's 24 cores,2x1400watt power supplys,SC747TG-R1400B-SQ Case,192GB 1333mhz ECC Registered ram,8 x 480GB Intel 520 SSD drives,Windows 7 64 bit ultimate, GTX 670 4GB ,2 x Sony BWU300S Blu-Ray burners, 1x Sony DVD burner,LSI 9266 Raid Controller with Cache vault & fast path Lic, ESI MayaE Audio,HD Spark,Blackmagic intensity Pro,TMPGenc 5,Episode Pro 6,Sorenson 9 Pro,Alcohol 120 V2, Edius 6.53,Dell 27"LCD,HD Spark, Powershield 3000VA UPS.

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            • #7
              Alan
              The price of the Quatro cards kept me away the top enders too and I did not look too carefully at them, around $4-5000AUD about the same as price as I paid for my latest foray into folly, but having taken Steves advice I have been doing some more investigating and the Quatro FX1700, the bottom of the Mid Range boards is the same price as an 8000 GTS $800 AUD so may be worth looking at in the future.
              Having already poured around $1200 AUD chasing this problem and my system is now working really well with stable and clean overlay with the ATI card it will be a while before I pick up enough courage to go any further but it will be at the top of the list for the next foray into madness.
              Regards Barry
              Win 10HP, EDIUS WG9.4, HD Spark, Boris RED 5, VMW6, Authorworks 6, Bluff Titler, VisTitler 2.8, NEAT 3/4, Mercalli 2/4, Vitascene, Izotope RX6 Plugin, NewBlue, Trend Micro AV
              GB GA-X58A-UD3R MB, i7 [email protected], 12G 1600mhz Mem, Samsung EVO-250G SSD, 3x2T RAID, GTX 970W OC, 2x24 inch LG Monitors
              Canon XH-A1/ Canon HF-G30, GoPro Hero3 Black, Edit @1920 50p HQ preset

              https://vimeo.com/user2157719/videos
              Laptop ASUS G752VT-GC060T Win 10HP, Edius WG8.53 Samsung M2 SSD 256G+1Tb HD,

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              • #8
                Just got your replys on the Quadro Cards

                Guys,
                check out EBay, I bought mine there and had no problems, I would go for a Quadro FX 4500 with 512 DDR3 Ram, these cards fly, I just had a look on EBay for you's and their is a couple of great buys on there at the moment, around $800 to $1200 is what I would pay for one, believe me you will not regret buying one of these cards, best investment you will ever make on a card.

                Good luck
                Steve
                Main system, Supermicro X8DAH+,Dual Xeon X5680 cpu's 24 cores,2x1400watt power supplys,SC747TG-R1400B-SQ Case,192GB 1333mhz ECC Registered ram,8 x 480GB Intel 520 SSD drives,Windows 7 64 bit ultimate, GTX 670 4GB ,2 x Sony BWU300S Blu-Ray burners, 1x Sony DVD burner,LSI 9266 Raid Controller with Cache vault & fast path Lic, ESI MayaE Audio,HD Spark,Blackmagic intensity Pro,TMPGenc 5,Episode Pro 6,Sorenson 9 Pro,Alcohol 120 V2, Edius 6.53,Dell 27"LCD,HD Spark, Powershield 3000VA UPS.

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                • #9
                  The question here Steve is will a video card in that price range give better performance than the $200-300 cards? Historically Edius has not benefitted much from higher end cards.

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                  • #10
                    Yes it will

                    Of course it will, As I mentioned the Quadro cards have a full 4 point floating processor compared to gaming cards, Just check out reviews on the net, Aslo Pro Dad highly recommend these cards as well, The architecture of these cards are designed for Editing and CAD work, This is why all hollywood
                    3D Animation studios use them, for the speed...
                    This is a bit about them......
                    It is also important that the latest professional graphics card generation support GenLock and FrameLock technologies. The first one serves to synchronize the signal generated by the graphics card with the external source, which is used a lot in video transmitting applications. The second one implements cluster visualization principles and allows independently synchronizing the channels from numerous workstations and creating a large virtual display managed by the numerous systems cluster for the sake of higher performance.

                    Also
                    SANTA CLARA, CA—OCTOBER 30, 2007—Broadcast, video and film professionals engaged in editing, compositing, and color grading can now benefit from the advanced features of new NVIDIA Quadro® FX 5600 SDI and Quadro™ FX 4600 SDI graphics cards. These next-generation graphics-to-video-out solutions from NVIDIA, which allow real-time rendering to become an integral part of the production work flow, feature 8-, 10- and 12-bit uncompressed SDI output in SD, HD, or 2K formats, Genlock support, improved 2D video compositing capabilities, 3D graphics and graphics processing unit (GPU) programmability, and more.

                    In Short I have used 8800GTX, 7950, 6800, ect ect and in my opion the Quadro's beet gaming cards hands down for rendering, and visual effects ect.

                    Cheers
                    Steve
                    Main system, Supermicro X8DAH+,Dual Xeon X5680 cpu's 24 cores,2x1400watt power supplys,SC747TG-R1400B-SQ Case,192GB 1333mhz ECC Registered ram,8 x 480GB Intel 520 SSD drives,Windows 7 64 bit ultimate, GTX 670 4GB ,2 x Sony BWU300S Blu-Ray burners, 1x Sony DVD burner,LSI 9266 Raid Controller with Cache vault & fast path Lic, ESI MayaE Audio,HD Spark,Blackmagic intensity Pro,TMPGenc 5,Episode Pro 6,Sorenson 9 Pro,Alcohol 120 V2, Edius 6.53,Dell 27"LCD,HD Spark, Powershield 3000VA UPS.

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                    • #11
                      After reading all this I've taken the plunge and ordered an FX 4500 from the U.S.

                      Let's hope it helps the Vitascene holdups!

                      Cheers Vaughan
                      Main Edit System ASUS Z170-Pro, 6700K, 32 gig ram HD Spark, Windows 7 64bit Edius 8.1 (Edit Machine)
                      2nd System Intel DZ77BH, 3770K, 16 GB ram, Edius 8.1 (ingest and authoring)
                      3rd system (internet & Printing station)

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                      • #12
                        I understand that they might be faster for render intense operations. However most Edius editing is not render intensive. In fact that is what I try to stay away from. So in that context is there any benefit that you have from personal experience?

                        I would never buy something based on their acvertising hype. :-)

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                        • #13
                          Again guys, 8800 GT is a unbelievebly great card, for extencive 3D rendering Quadra is better, but in real world most of us do not have to spent thousands for Quadra. 8800GT ($250 approx.) will satisfy all your needs in Edius, Boris, AE, Vitascene etc. The only problem is with Xplode, that wouldn't run in realtime on non-ATI cards... For some reasons GV refused to help customers with this small issue, saying that they are not supported Xplode any more, even most of us wanted something to be done about this great package...
                          Anyway, 8800GT is great, it has future with Vista and I am happy with it.
                          Nice day
                          mike
                          Asus P8P67, Intel i7 2600K working at 4.50 Ghz, 16Gb Kingston RAM, Windows 7 64bit, 500Gb system drive, 320Gb Data drive and 1TB RAID-0 for AV, Edius NX Express, EVGA nVidia GTX 570 2.5CB DDR5, 750w ALTEC power and some creativity...

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                          • #14
                            Hi, Mike0130
                            This question is for Mike0130.
                            I hve the system like yours , but the Video card is ATI 1950PRO and It's not
                            working with Xplode Pro. (When I apply special effect on timeline I saw green color on monitor)Everything else is fine.
                            Is the 8800 GT Video Card working with the Xplode Pro?
                            Thnk you

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by kukun View Post
                              Hi, Mike0130
                              This question is for Mike0130.
                              I hve the system like yours , but the Video card is ATI 1950PRO and It's not
                              working with Xplode Pro. (When I apply special effect on timeline I saw green color on monitor)Everything else is fine.
                              Is the 8800 GT Video Card working with the Xplode Pro?
                              Thnk you
                              Hi Kukun, I am not mike0130, but I just want to ask. Have you tried different drivers? Sometimes old drivers work out better than the latest. Also, the 3D settings and antiscopic settings need to be tweaked. And one more thing is the Xplode config setup, specifically the 3D Setting. Lastly, the refresh rate that you have chosen in relation to these settings can make or break certain problems.

                              Maybe an ATI guru is hear to chime in.
                              George Dame
                              Grass Valley / Canopus System Integrator - Nearly 13 Years
                              Providing Systems, Onsite Delivery, Support & Training Services Nationwide
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